Comments: Oxford University to award honorary degree to Presiding Bishop

Wonderful news. Richly deserved.


She is such an inspiration to many of us.

Posted by Revd Laurie Roberts at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 4:53pm GMT

Bravo for our pastor!
Just compensation for the humiliation inflicted in mitre-gate.

Posted by ANDREW at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 6:02pm GMT

Congratulations and Mazel Tov to PB Katharine Jefferts Schori.
This is well deserved.

Posted by peterpi - Peter Gross at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 6:40pm GMT

The first female Presiding Bishop of the American Episcopal Church is awarded an Honorary Doctorate but the first female British Prime Minister was not so fortunate in being similarly honoured by Oxford University.

Posted by Father David at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 7:21pm GMT

American usage: awesome! British usage: brilliant!
Well deserved for ability and willingness to preach the Gospel of loving all our neighbors.

Posted by Cynthia at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 8:36pm GMT

I have not been overly impressed by this bishop nor her immediate predecessor. Far too willing to follow the Rowan Williams agenda.

I have always thought her theological skills somewhat deficient and I think she could have done a better job of the revision of the canons.
Some very poor decisions on dealing with the rebels, leaving her look very illiberal.

Having said that, and leaving out a raft of other complaints as she is going, I hope she has a wonderful day at Oxford ..... and let's look forward to her replacement. Does anyone know who is in the running?

A final note:
One of the events that shocked me most in the disastrous reign of Archbishop Williams was the miserable, cool almost insulting way he greeted her election. Having a woman as part of his ruling elite was not something he thought timely.

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 9:17pm GMT

Kudos, Congrats and Blessings to Our ++KJS. <3

Posted by JCF at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 9:40pm GMT

I don't think Mrs. Thatcher would have borne the calumnies and humiliations heaped upon Bishop Jefferts-Schori by other Anglican bishops with nearly as much grace and forbearance.

Kudos to our Presiding Bishop!

Posted by FD Blanchard at Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 11:49pm GMT

What a wonderful tribute to the Presiding Bishop of TEC! For her tenacity in confronting sexism and homophobia in her own Church, and in the Churches of the Anglican Communion, Bishop Katharine is a deserving candidate for this prestigious honour, bestowed by the venerable University of Oxford.

Brava, Bishop Katharine, and Bravo/a, T.E.C.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 2:03am GMT

Re: Father David: Well, it does speak to their respective values. One started as an academic, and the other really didn't see a lot of value in them.

Posted by Paul T. at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 3:22am GMT

I know of only one female British PM and, having slashed university budgets, she would hardly have been an appropriate candidate!

Posted by Geoff at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 5:22am GMT

Father David, maybe the clue to the difference lies in the Oxford Uni Motto - DOMINUS ILLUMINATIO MEA. Is that a claim that Mrs Thatcher could convincingly make?

Posted by Sister Mary at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 5:56am GMT

The reason the PB gets a DD from Oxford is because the average Oxford Don doesn't loathe her the way they loathed Maggie for wrecking tertiary education and causing social suffering. And who can blame them?

Posted by John Penman at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 7:34am GMT

Perhaps 'the Oxford dons' actually have more respect for Bishop Katharine - and women clergy in general - than some of the English Bishops. Let's hope that culture changes before too long.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 10:20am GMT

Even in those days (much worse now, of course), Oxford was awarding honorary degress to some pretty rum characters, so the rejection of Maggie (and I'm not a fan) was not particularly principled. Of course, academics do like posturing.

Posted by John at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 12:07pm GMT

Perhaps if the first female prime minister didn't have so much blood on her hands Oxford wouldn't have to worry about her ruining their reputation.

Posted by John (not McCain) at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 1:43pm GMT

There we have it. pro choice, pro gay,pro divorce/ re-marriage , disbelieving in the exclusivity of the Christian claims ( i.e the one true religion).....a doctorate from Oxford, well done.

However she has at least stood up to the organised theft campaign of ACNA and associates.
At least you know where you stand with Bishop Katherine, unlike Rowan Williams..running with the hare and the hounds.

Posted by robert Ian williams at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 4:53pm GMT

So much better than being a Canterbury Six Preacher.

Posted by Concerned Anglican at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 5:15pm GMT

Isn't it amazing how even after her demise that former Methodist turned Anglican - the Iron Lady can still produce such strong reactions?

Posted by Father David at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 5:53pm GMT

We had an interesting glance at the character of Bishop Katherine at our church in Seattle a few years ago: she was in town for some business meeting, and simply showed up for the 8 o'clock service unannounced, slipping into a back pew moments before the service began. She afterwards came to coffee hour* equally unannounced, chatted with various people, and left - and almost no one knew who she was. (Our Church Bore managed to buttonhole her for ten minutes, utterly unaware who she was... )

* One of the two non-canonical sacraments in the Episcopal Church, the other being Announcements.

Posted by Nathaniel Brown at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 7:02pm GMT

"Isn't it amazing how even after her demise that former Methodist turned Anglican - the Iron Lady can still produce such strong reactions?"


Yeah, it's like people's evil deeds are remembered after they die. How shocking. Too bad she couldn't be remembered for doing good, but then she never actually did anything good.

Posted by John (not McCain) at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 8:19pm GMT

Of course, academics do like posturing.'

Well, you would know.

Posted by Stephen Morgan at Friday, 7 February 2014 at 10:11pm GMT

Thank you Nathaniel Brown for this, it is good to know.

It is consistent with what I have heard of her and of her own teaching and approach.

Posted by Revd Laurie Roberts at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 2:10am GMT

If Oxford University snubbed Lady Thatcher at least the Established Church ( once aka as "the Tory Party at Prayer") honoured her memory by giving her "a good send off"! I seem to remember a bit of a do at St. Paul's cathedral which was little short of. State Funeral, the likes of which we haven't seen since Winston's departure.

Posted by Father David at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 6:33am GMT

"I seem to remember a bit of a do at St. Paul's cathedral which was little short of. State Funeral, the likes of which we haven't seen since Winston's departure."

Except that I don't remember anyone singing "Ding Dong The Witch is Dead" on the day of Sir Winston's funeral.

Posted by FD Blanchard at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 1:45pm GMT

Stephen,

Part of the point of my remark.

Posted by John at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 1:52pm GMT

Hmmmmm ........ The thread seems to have been hijacked.....

But as a matter of interest the Welsh coal miner side of my family hated both Thatcher and Churchill and for much the same reason. So, as I recall there was a distinct lack of sharing in the national mood when Winston died and some definitely felt better, now that he's gone .... I just can't thing of a suitable song, though ......

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 3:42pm GMT

I didn't like most of Margaret Thatcher's policies, but I still hope and pray she died in a state of grace.

Furthermore I feel her university, should have honoured her achievement of being the first British Woman prime minister. However they decided to be small minded instead.

However what really counts is when we are judged by God.

Posted by Robert ian Williams at Saturday, 8 February 2014 at 7:05pm GMT

Delighted to see Bp Jefferts Schori honoured by Oxford and with warm words from Canterbury. C of E needs the firmest relationship with her church, a Christian one, when the bishops of Nigeria and Uganda are selling out on the gospel in favour of lynch mobs.

Posted by Spirit of Vatican II at Monday, 10 February 2014 at 7:27am GMT

Now here's a thought - of some relevance to other threads about female Deans and Episcopal Appointment processes,
PB Katharine turns 60 next month, so at the end of her term she will be extraordinarily young to be "retired" or "unemployed" or "redundant". Wouldn't she be a breath of fresh air as Bishop of Gloucester, or of one of the other vacant dioceses in the C of E? I expect there would be a way of fast-tracking British citizenship if those concerned, (not least +Katharine herself!) thought it was a good idea.

Posted by Edward Prebble at Monday, 10 February 2014 at 11:36pm GMT

Time: Is belief in Jesus the only way to get to heaven?

Schori: We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine. But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box.

Jesus: I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

Says it all really...

Posted by Mark Allen at Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 11:43am GMT
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