Comments: Women bishops measure - changes by the laity

So quite a large number of changed votes.

Nevertheless 21% of the House of Laity remains opposed. This percentage is surely not representative of the views of the aggregation of the Deanery Synods laity membership that is the HoL GS electorate, let alone representative of the aggregation of all the electoral rolls of the parishes of the Church of England, who in turn elect Deanery Synod members, and which might loosely be considered to be the "membership" of the CofE for the purposes of this discussion.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Saturday, 26 July 2014 at 10:21am BST

Your remark, Simon, is surely indicative that most lay members of Synods are political activists, rather than open-minded members of congregations.
This may say something about the unwillingness of most lay people to 'rock the boat' by becoming involved in Church politics.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Sunday, 27 July 2014 at 12:28pm BST

I can also think of people who voted for a particular lay member of GS. In the personal statement she stated that she supported women's ministry, but has consistently voted against women ministering as Bishops. The people I know who voted for her will not do so again. It all depends on what she mean by "women's ministry" - it can be a slippery phrase in some hands.

Posted by Peter at Sunday, 27 July 2014 at 9:12pm BST

Thats the crux of the matter, Simon. The Church of England has a governing body which is neither democratically representative of clergy or people. If it was, there would have been no need for the Bishops declaration, which effectively de facto creates a church within a church! Without synod reform, there will be no shift on the gay issue, as the growing conservative evangelicals ( split on divorce and women, but not on this ) will persistently block it.

Posted by robert ian williams at Tuesday, 29 July 2014 at 10:14am BST
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