Comments: Philip North writes about Positive Mission

Thanks to Henry Dee for drawing my attention to this article in a comment on an earlier thread.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Monday, 2 February 2015 at 3:58pm GMT

Encouraging article.

Posted by Laurie at Monday, 2 February 2015 at 7:04pm GMT

Well, it's pretty obvious from that: the Church of England is "superficial" and he looks to the pope and Vatican II for leading inspiration. I suggest he should have been ordained by Roman Catholics, perhaps with all Anglicans nearby keeping their arms down.

Posted by Pluralist at Monday, 2 February 2015 at 7:17pm GMT

Many thoughtful ideas from Philip North about positive mission. There are lots of ways to connect with community, and also to those attending church who feel alienated. Listening is a good way to start. Small, ageing congregations do bear a tremendous burden to keep the 'status quo' going and sometimes it takes a lot of courage to say 'this isn't working for some members of our congregation'. We are justified by faith alone, in Christ alone, not by our works. Giving to community out of love, not necessity, seems to be the Way.

Posted by Pam at Monday, 2 February 2015 at 8:58pm GMT

Well, it's pretty obvious from that: the Church of England is "superficial" and he looks to the pope and Vatican II for leading inspiration

Well, that is a remarkably mean response to a decent article by Bishop North. OK, so he mentions Pope Francis, why not? and one mention of Vatican 2 documents.

Would I be right in thinking that the heart of it is that you wish he hadn't been made a Bishop and just gone off to Rome?

Posted by ian at Tuesday, 3 February 2015 at 2:39am GMT

My main observation is that the Church of England looks in two directions at once, formally. He might have included in the article why he seeks to do these practical apparently beneficial things in an Anglican setting. I'm just as critical of liberals who don't believe what they should do formally and choose to remain when there is choice. Why is he Anglican, why isn't he Roman Catholic? Perhaps, elsewhere, he has addressed this, but not in this piece.

Posted by Pluralist at Tuesday, 3 February 2015 at 5:51pm GMT

Why on earth would this article address why he is an Anglican? You may as well ask why he doesn't discuss his understanding of whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.

The article, written by an Anglican to Anglican members of an Anglican organisation, just isn't about that.

Posted by Richard at Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 5:09pm GMT
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