Comments: “Bishop for church-plants”

"Church-planting was given a stimulus by the seminal 2004 Church Report Mission Shaped Church. This report recognised that ‘the existing parochial system alone is no longer able fully to deliver its underlying mission purpose…’ and that ‘a variety of integrated missionary approaches is required’ with ‘a mixed economy of parish churches and network churches.’ It described church plants as ‘creating new communities of Christian faith as part of the mission of God to express God’s kingdom in every geographic and cultural context.’" - extract from above post -

Does this mean that, with very little tweaking, the AMiE - and other like intrusive innovations by the Gafcon Primates - could be accommodated under this existing protocol?

If that is the case, it could be 'anything goes' in the Church of England in the future. That could be a worry for the C. of E. - but not for the rest of the Provinces of the ACC.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 1:29am BST

Step forward Nicky Gumbel.
Is this part of the Church of England's plan to increase the number of bishops by 50% before the year 2020?

Posted by Father David at Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 4:01am BST

Please can we have a bishop for churches that take theology seriously?

Posted by Fr William at Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 12:50pm BST

David: obviously it is. William: obviously we cannot. Mostly because to 'take theology seriously' could mean any number of things, many of them awful. Like 'bible-believing', but with an extra spray-on veneer of intellectual snobbery.

Posted by DBD at Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 6:45pm BST

Oh good! I have an aspidistra wanting a bishop in London.

Posted by June Butler at Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 11:03pm BST

Will he minister to St. John's wort, as well?

Posted by Jeremy at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 2:41am BST

Since Acts 6 the church has appointed new leadership to cope with growth in ministry. Thank goodness that part of the CofE is actually growing. Unfortunately when the CofE declines we keep all the same structures (and bishops) that we had before as if nothing had changed.

Posted by David Keen at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 7:37am BST

DBD: Oh dear. Area managers only then. I suppose we need lots of new bishops more likely to be filled be men (plants, conevos) so that the women can have the others.

Posted by Fr William at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 7:48am BST

Fr William: No! Rather so that all ordained clergy both male or female, liberal or traditionalist, catholic or evangelical can fill these roles.

Posted by Chuchu Nwagu at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 12:50pm BST

At a time when Reform and Renewal seem to be stressing the importance of the "parish" as the basic unit that people identify with it seems that the "diocese" is becoming less and less important with Flying Bishops and the soon to be "Church Plant Bishop" of Islington being given freedom to roam whereever the wind blows.

Posted by Father David at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 1:11pm BST

Fr David, yes indeed. Anyway, to most in my congregations, bishops are at best peripheral. Our diocesan is retiring and when it came to considering a donation for a gift, some said 'why, he's never been here' Others 'he's only been once'. They look like coughing up 30 quid between them. I said I would rather the money go to those who knock at the vicarage door (I've always been a soft touch).

Posted by Fr William at Sunday, 3 May 2015 at 2:24pm BST
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