Comments: Tax credits and the bishops

There seemed to be far more than three bishops in the House of Lords in the footage that I saw, where were the other Lords Spiritual when it came to the vote? Wasn't Gloucester introduced into the House on the day of the Tax Credits vote?

Posted by Father David at Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 5:19pm GMT

"Wasn't Gloucester introduced into the House on the day of the Tax Credits vote?" Fr David

As she says herself, “I am not in the business of wanting to offend anyone, but I do want to gently challenge people.” [interview in The Guardian].

Perhaps using her vote risked causing offence to someone. Or maybe it wasn't a 'gentle' enough form of challenge.

Posted by Laurence Cunnington at Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 10:02pm GMT

I see Lord Green's name on The Independent's list of prominent British millionaires who voted for the cuts.

Posted by Jane Charman at Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 11:21pm GMT

Speaking of voting records, now that the membership of the General Synod is known, would anyone dare to venture a guess about their voting intentions?

Posted by Lorenzo at Thursday, 29 October 2015 at 9:25am GMT

I think the convention in Parliament is that members do not vote before they have made their maiden speech.

Posted by Philip Hobday at Thursday, 29 October 2015 at 1:57pm GMT

Could a colleague explain to this reader across the pond the consequence of "Content" vs. "Not Content?" Sounds more specific, or more obscure, than "For" or "Against."

Posted by Marshall Scott at Thursday, 29 October 2015 at 3:03pm GMT

I'd be interested to know where Philip Hobday found his information about members in Parliament not voting before they have made their maiden speech? Does this convention only apply in the Lords as I cannot believe that the 55 newly elected, champing at the bit, SNP MPs will wait until they have made their maiden speeches before casting any vote in the House of Commons? Thinking of Scotland - the Provost of Glasgow on his Blog "What's in Kelvin's Head" has kindly provided the newly unelected Bishop of Gloucester with a rather silly spoof Maiden Speech which also proves to be her Valedictiory Speech.

Posted by Father David at Friday, 30 October 2015 at 8:52am GMT

"I think the convention in Parliament is that members do not vote before they have made their maiden speech."

If so, then I retract my earlier comment regarding the Bishop of Gloucester's failure to vote this week and await her future voting record with interest.

Posted by Laurence Cunnington at Friday, 30 October 2015 at 5:13pm GMT

Laurence, the convention is that new Members of the Commons do not intervene in debates until they have made their maiden speech. They can vote and put down questions for written answer, if not for oral answer. I don't know how much of this follows into the Lords.

That said, I am very disappointed in the Bishops. When even Lord Lloyd-Webber dragged himself away from New York to vote for the Government, only three bishops managed to vote, at least one on the Govt's side. If the argument for keeping bishops in the Upper House is that they represent those with faith and those otherwise without a voice, then the bishops pretty much failed to do that this week. Compare with the comments of the (mostly disestablished) Archbishop of Wales this week - without a seat in the Lords or anywhere beyond his own Bench of Bishops.

Posted by Richard at Sunday, 1 November 2015 at 5:32pm GMT
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