Comments: General Synod - day 2 of 2

The backing of military action is a very sad day indeed.

Posted by Kate at Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 10:17pm GMT

Has the Age of Signs and Wonders not returned? And in the context of the Church of England General Synod, no less!

First, a Franciscan Friar Preacher to the Papal Household, delivers a message of collaborative unity. Secondly, a Coptic Bishop irges upon us a like intention of a unified mission to refugees. And then, there is a Pope called Francis.

Are we entering a new Franciscan Age; where the poor and outcast are gathered in; the powerful counselled to give heed to the poor; and healing and reconciliation is sought in all parts of the Church.

What a pity these outside Speakers could not have addressed a meeting of the GAFCON Primates. Then, there might be an incentive to Unity in Mission, rather than division on grounds of sectarian moralising - matters which, according to the Franciscan Preacher, are of secondary significance to our need of Unity in the Body of Christ.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 11:43pm GMT

Kate, now we agree on something.

Posted by Cynthia at Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 5:18am GMT

"The backing of military action is a very sad day indeed." Kate

I wonder what the late Bishop George Bell would have had to say about this? Were he still with us would his speech to the General Synod have echoed the speech he made in the House of Lords condemning the Blanket Bombing of German cities?

Posted by Father David at Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 5:49am GMT

Fr Ron, do you actually understand the Roman Catholic church at all? If you seriously think they are embracing this new age as opposed to GAFCON, the RC are far harder on pretty much every liberal cause going worldwide and I'm afraid would have little sympathy for your endless anti GAFCON position.

Posted by Paul at Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 9:25am GMT

For once, I agree with England's Synod: ISIS are, to use the ancient phrase, hostis humani generis -- like the pirates of old, they're enemies of the human race, and it's the duty of all nations of means to destroy them.

Pacifism excepted, I can't see any grounds to disagree in principle. Yes, airstrikes will accidentally kill innocent people -- but inaction will lead to many more deaths, and so long as Daesh survive, life worse than death for the millions subjected to their tyranny.

They're a gang of brigands, in thrall to a genocidal doomsday cult, and beyond all reason in consequence. When people can't be reasoned with, they must be stopped. The choice isn't between war and peace; it's between victory and surrender.

Posted by James Byron at Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 2:17pm GMT

To say synod backed military action is an overstatement. Comments around military action as the/a way of crating safe pathways for refugees were made but in the context of the whole motion I do not believe that we backed indiscriminate bombing (or even possibly discriminate bombing).

Posted by Priscilla White at Thursday, 26 November 2015 at 5:30pm GMT

Paul (on Thursday). Yes, I do have a pretty good idea of the two sides of the Roman Catholic Church - the pro-Vatican II apologists (incl. Pope Francis) and the anti-aggiornamento crowd (incl. Cardinal George Pell and other traditionalists).

Obviously, you have not absorbed the content of the two addresses given to the general Synod; the first by the Franciscan Preacher to the Papal Household, and the second, by the Coptic Bishop. Both of these 'outsiders' seem more disposed towards the Unity of our Churches - based on non-adiaphoraic issues - than you do.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 27 November 2015 at 12:04am GMT
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