Comments: Southern Africa province rejects blessing of same-sex unions

A sincere and heartfelt message from Bishop Thabo.

Posted by Kate at Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 3:53pm BST

"The initial motion before the Synod also proposed that bishops could provide for clergy who identify as LGBTI and are in legal same-sex civil unions to be licensed to minister in parishes. But the proposers withdrew this section before debate began."

Sounds like a classic 'Failure of Nerve' - even before Synod assembled. however, no different from our province in Aotearoa/New Zealand and Polynesia. which recently shelved the process of 'A Way Forward' until G.S.2018.

I wonder if the stance of the S.A. Bishops was the cause of the Archbishop of Kenya (GAFCON's) recent criticism of "Bishops being the problem". (well, perhaps not!)

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 12:53am BST

It's slight more comforting, finally, to be welcomed at Church (before they slam the door in your face)...surely there will be no hugging by LGBTI allowed when exchanging "la paz"...of well...nothing new here. Will there be pew monitors?

Posted by Leonard Clark at Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 8:20pm BST

Obviously, the vote should have been by/for ONLY the Anglican churches in *South Africa* (which have civil unions). Waters were entirely muddied by having this multi-national vote.

Kyrie eleison. How long, Lord, how long will your LGBT children---their sexuality Made in Your Image & Likeness---be compelled to bear the cross of hate?

Posted by JCF at Monday, 3 October 2016 at 11:35am BST

The whole idea of grand, wide, broad referenda is showing its nasty side:

(1) Brexit
(2) Colombia v. FARC
(3) Southern Africa v. LGBT

There are limits to the democratic ideal when the majority of the voters are morally lax.

It seems to me that South Africa has a moral obligation to recognize the now-legal LGBT acceptance, marriage, ordination, whatever.

It is not a case of doing what is morally wrong, just a case of NOT doing what is morally right, and I don't know how South Africa faces that.

Ask Desmond Tutu—he'll tell you what to do!

Posted by John-Julian, OJN at Monday, 3 October 2016 at 9:37pm BST

Very interesting to see how a black majority episcopate has voted....or how the vote was reflective on racial lines.

In the old apartheid days a predominately white episcopate brought in liberal divorce and remarriage canons.

Posted by robert ian williams at Tuesday, 4 October 2016 at 6:14am BST
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