Comments: Opinion - 1 November 2017

The piece on evangelicalism is interesting, but the last sentence is odd:
" Not only is evangelical influence substantial, but it is significant enough to attract criticism both from secularists and some Christians inside the CofE. This much is known: The independent evangelical leaders who declared arrogantly in years gone by that “the Church of England is dead” were wrong. God hasn’t finished with it yet!"

The recent attendance statistics don't show that evangelicals are the salvation of the church.

Does anyone know of reliable statistics about sector growth and shrinkage in the CoE? I seem to remember that churches that grow are those who have a clear identity and mission - and that is true for all three churchmanships.

It could just as well be true that in future, evangelicals will have to take their share of the blame for declining attendance.

Posted by Erika Baker at Wednesday, 1 November 2017 at 11:14am GMT

As I mentioned on Twitter, I would expect a Guardian writer to know his or her stuff. So I was surprised to read Robert McCrum talking about the BCP being translated into 3 dialects of 'Inuit'. 'Inuit' is the people (that is literally what the word means); 'Inuktitut' is the language.

Posted by Tim Chesterton at Thursday, 2 November 2017 at 12:04am GMT

Bishop David's thoughtful article is most welcome. May be it is because I am older, but the present deluge of rhetoric and emotion I find very frightening. It swamps peoples thinking, and folk are carried away on a strong wave of emotion, without thought to the facts and reasoning.
This seems to be happening throughout the world, leading to the most unhelpful people being elected to positions of power. In America Trump, in the United Kingdom the rise of Momentum and Corbyn. In France the election of a President who has climbed the greasy poll , by his financial dealings, on the backs of others.

Fr John Emlyn

Posted by Fr John E Harris-White at Thursday, 2 November 2017 at 8:42am GMT

I would have thought that the better comparison with Trump would be the three (boorish, incompetent, right wing) Brexiteers rather than the mild-mannered and somewhat leftie Corbyn.

Posted by Jo at Thursday, 2 November 2017 at 7:25pm GMT

Andrew Lightbown is right to point to the fact that 'the highest level of communion' is impossible for those who are unable to accept the Eucharistic ministry of a priest (M or F) within the Church family they purport to belong to.

This is just one reason why the unwillingness of GAFCON Prelates to share the Eucharistic meal with the rest of our Communion is so unhelpful - despite their protestations of 'orthodoxy'.

Of course ,by the very same principle, this is where 'alternative oversight' for those who have problems with the ministry of women is inimical to the pricniple of 'full communion'.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 3 November 2017 at 8:24am GMT

Andrew Lightbown's piece on the colloquium on the Five Guiding Principles is excellent and I hope this review process awakens us to how far we still have to go before we come to a genuine, unambiguous mutual flourishing. Thank you

Posted by David Runcorn at Friday, 3 November 2017 at 10:41am GMT

I hope the George Washington plaque will not be removed. Our country needs heroes, especially in the anti-hero mood of the present day. You will not find any perfect heroes because there are no perfect people. Accept that his flaws were profound, but so were the wonderful things he did to found this country. Christianity is all about forgiveness. Isn't it time after over 200 years to forgive and focus on the good of a very great man?

Posted by Virginia Doran at Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 7:07pm GMT
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