Comments: Opinion - 9 December 2017

A good article by Neil Patterson on the dangers of trying to appropriate God which, as he warns, can almost be a kind of domestication and containing of the Holy within our own boundaries and limitations.

I have appreciated and been blessed by the opportunity to worship and pray and share at East London Mosque. I could not help but sense that 'our' God is also the God they love, and worship, and turn to for help. I just don't believe we can 'contain' a God who fundamentally wants to touch, to share, to comfort, to dwell among us.

God is deeper, wider, wilder, more mysterious than that. You cannot tame God. But people try. They try to appropriate God to themselves.

Posted by Susannah Clark at Saturday, 9 December 2017 at 12:25pm GMT

The comments on that Cranmer piece are a cesspit. I get why TA links to the articles by Martin Sewell, which are humane and well argued, but the comments aren't a place for those of a sensitive disposition.

Posted by Interested Observer at Saturday, 9 December 2017 at 5:30pm GMT

I've expressed my views about Cranmer's commentariat before, but since we're all aware of what goes on below the line, I hope that the worthwhile articles can continue to be linked.

Posted by James Byron at Saturday, 9 December 2017 at 11:38pm GMT

Neil Patterson’s article rang some bells but I think it overstates (reads in?) what's going on with people when they sing 'my' or 'our'. I think it's just an identifying with Gods possession of us, the reality of the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. It's certainly there in older hymns though the emotional content is not always as marked, Are there not plenty of older hymns with 'our' in terms of God or his attributes or actions? The same with scripture... 'Our Father in heaven...' 'The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ... Is ''The Lord is my shepherd' a fencing in of God? A bad experience can taint our view... but God is my God; God is our God..... Isn't that the relationship God wants us to have?

Posted by Ian H at Sunday, 10 December 2017 at 11:58am GMT

Martin Sewell's piece was very good, as usual. Why on earth have the Archbishops not taken him up on his offer of help with safeguarding issues...?

The comments on Archbishop Cranmer do include a link to Anne Atkins' piece on her experience of Iwerne, which is worth reading.

Whe I was at Wycliffe in the mid 80s a number of the men there were Iwerne products. They all wore navy Guernsey sweaters and brown brogues and carried identical Filofaxes, and we used to laugh (gently) at that. Now I think of them and hope they weren't victims too.

Posted by Janet Fife at Sunday, 10 December 2017 at 8:36pm GMT
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