Sunday, 23 November 2003

Sunday news

Istanbul: updated links on this are here.

Another George Carey interview, this time on the BBC Radio 4 Sunday programme. Listen to it here (Real Player required).
Update:
and another, on BBC TV’s Breakfast with Frost. Here is the transcript of the interview.

And here is the full transcript of that Australian TV interview with Peter Jensen. An Australian news story based on it has two headlines:
Melbourne Age Archbishop flags split over gays
Sydney Herald Sydney archbishop could abandon Canterbury’s authority
Anglican Media Sydney is unhappy about that second headline.
Update
Not all Sydney Anglicans are happy about what Jensen said, Jensen threatens to switch allegiances in Monday’s Sydney Morning Herald.

Meanwhile in Britain, the Telegraph reports that:
Archbishop gives his ‘full backing’ to pro-life campaigner and also has a long interview with Joanna Jepson. The view of the West Mercia Police on this is reported here. Here are some earlier reports:
Curate takes police to court over abortion of cleft-palate foetus
Ruth Gledhill gave some background in Curate tells of past that led to fight on ‘eugenic’ abortion.
The issue is discussed in today’s Sunday Times by Tom Shakespeare and also by Minnette Marrin.

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How do you know Lord Carey is saying something idiotic? His lips are moving.

To wit: “I remember teaching a young man years ago who lived with an older man - and I don’t think there was anything improper or anything like that in the relationship, he cared for him, he gave up almost his entire life for that older person who was quite sick.”

By “anything improper” I take it that Dr. Carey means S*E*X? Like sex and caring are somehow mutually exclusive? What the heck is happening in his marriage?!

Finally, there’s this: “the global south, that’s probably where the strength of Anglicanism is today. Vibrant churches, churches really reaching out in their society . . .”

Since the region of the “global south” most often cited is Africa, let’s compare Carey’s glowing description to that of an actual African (in the recent Vancouver Sun article):

“The fact is [African] society is fanatically religious,” Willy Matanga, the head of Kenya’s independent Human Rights Commission, said this month. Many Africans know homosexual relations are occurring, Matanga said, but they won’t talk about it. “I think the influence of religion in Africa is very harmful. They don’t allow proper sex education in school, don’t allow condoms in a country with HIV-AIDS. That kind of rubbish makes me very mad.”

Fanatic. Harmful. Rubbish. That’s not some “racist,” “elitist” white Episcopalian talking, but an African speaking out about the supposed “strength” of “vibrant churches, reaching out in their society.”

Too many bishops in the “global south” are out of touch w/ their countrymen&women, and Dr. Carey would have the whole Anglican Communion follow their example? Shall the blind lead the blind?

Posted by: J. Collins Fisher at November 23, 2003 10:29 PM