Thinking Anglicans

Saturday's opinion columns

In this week’s Tablet Richard Harries writes about The female mitre.

Yesterday’s Guardian had an interesting feature article by Natasha Walter about CofE schools: On a wink and a prayer.

Christopher Howse writes in the Telegraph about the poet RS Thomas.

Roderick Strange in The Times has We must not stray from understanding the essential inhumanity of evil.

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“I also wonder why the churches in London have decided that it is an acceptable part of their mission to divide neighbour from neighbour.” Natasha Walter seems to have a strange cynical view about church schools: It is the church’s fault that, because they are selective, people hypocritically pretend to be believers in order to get their children in. The church schools do better than others, therefore there is something wrong with them ! The church schools are devisive because Christians choose to send their kids to them rather than use the state schools (where they would be taught that… Read more »

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I think the point about schools and selection and community diversities is a systemic one. Unless we can sustain systemic thinking – that sees both the church schools and the community schools as part of one unwittingly organized -(organized almost by default, or at least with unplanned consequences)- we cannot see that systemic forest for looking at its individual trees and grouped groves. Neither is this early analysis mostly about finding somebody to blame, but rather a call to examine effects – which nobody in particular is making happen. That observational and discernment challenges of having to live with effects… Read more »

J. C. Fisher
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J. C. Fisher

While +Richard Harries “Tablet” editorial is welcome, that headline certainly isn’t! “The Female Mitre”? What, are there two of them wired together, and worn over the chest? (Rather like Madonna’s on-stage fashions, circa 1990? ;-p)

No, it is the *one mitre*, of bishops of Christ’s Body, the Church—worn by either male or female Imago Dei, properly called and consecrated bishop. That’s all.

Merseymike
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Merseymike

Natasha Walter’s article was excellent and I know one which many vicars will echo.

I don’t think that the Church should be giving the middle classes yet another leg-up – they should be looking to how they can best help those in greatest need.

But then they would no doubt lose their ‘popularity’.

Martin Reynolds
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Those were the days!: “A power of jurisdiction almost equal to that of the Abbess of Las Huelgas was at one time exercised by the Cistercian Abbess of Converano in Italy. Among the many privileges enjoyed by this Abbess may be specially mentioned, that of appointing her own vicar-general through whom she governed her abbatial territory; that of selecting and approving confessors for the laity; and that of authorizing clerics to have the cure of souls in the churches under her jurisdiction. Every newly appointed Abbess of Converano was likewise entitled to receive the public “homage” of her clergy,–the ceremony… Read more »

Göran Koch-Swahne
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“This is just another ´camnpaign article for state controlled education. Depste the fact that it is significantly underperforming… even when you take into account the better social and family background that Christians usually provide for their offspring.”

Not Dr Darwin, Mr Spencer.

Prior Aelred
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There are various relics of what seems to have been a more sacerdotal role for women in the Church in earlier times — viz., to this day a Carthusian choir nun is entitled to read the Gospel at Matins & wears a stole for this, as well as for administering communion when no priest is available.

John Henry
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John Henry

Wrote the good Prior: “There are various relics of what seems to have been a more sacerdotal role for women in the Church in earlier times — viz., to this day a Carthusian choir nun is entitled to read the Gospel at Matins & wears a stole for this, as well as for administering communion when no priest is available.” But how do we get misogynist folk like +Jack Iker, Fort Worth, to read their church history books? Now the ball is in ++Rowan Cantuar’s court, appeals having been made to provide alternative primatial oversight now that TEC has presumed… Read more »

Athos
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Athos

I note that the Abbess of Las Huelgas and the Abbess of Converano were not priests or bishops.

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mynsterpreost

I knew the name Natasha Walter rang a bell in that article — wsn’t her father the head of the Rationalist Press and the National Secular Society? Can’t remember any mention of that in the article, so I could be wrong.

Jon
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No, they weren’t priests or bishops, but they were apparently permitted to act as if they were. A curiousity, given the potential for confusion this would entail.

Jon

Athos
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Athos

SO lets be clear. The two abbesses were not bishops or priests although (APPARENTLY!!) allowed to behave as if they were. Is there any evidence that there were ever any female bishops or priests EVER in either Catholic west or orthodox east? Which must mean that 1) either they had a different bible to us or 2) a few of us today have insights into scripture that have been denied the rest of the Church for 2000 years; which either means that the Church of the past was made up of spiritual neaderthals or that the few in favour of… Read more »