I am intrigued and disturbed by this word “persuasion” . It smacks of coercion and manipulation, and the implication is that a church leader (clearly male) should persuade a PCC to act in such a way or another. Its all very Trump-esque and feels like we are at a time when scripture dictates rather than liberates.
“Persuade” is a word chosen by the headline writers of The Church Times, not the manual writers of The Alliance. In the linked document that word is never used. I imagine they chose it because they think it has the connotations which you hear – The Church Times is pretty clear that it dislikes The Alliance.
The two go together. ‘If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.’
Simon Bravery
9 hours ago
365 days to chose from for their Action Day and they choose World Aids Day.
Mary Hancock
7 hours ago
I may have misread the latest from the House of Bishops’ latest meeting report but I thought they had agreed that the decision to introduce bespoke services and allowing clergy to marry same sex partners would be subject to Canon 2b (or whichever it is), and that was an aim of the Alliance and some other groups. That proposal is unlikely to happen soon, I would have thought. The suite of prayers for use in services remain for use if desired but without any compulsion to use them (or penalty).
Nigel Ashworth
7 hours ago
Incumbents typically strive for consensus on their PCCs, mindful of the requirement as we live together to have a measure of unity which allows the Church to work in its mission. Most PCCs navigate differences with charity, tolerance and kindness. Obviously, this unity is a biblical injunction as well. The Alliance ‘Campaign Manual’ takes a different tack and recommends nobbling each PCC member ahead of the official meeting. The recommendation put like this: “Church leaders to gather a small group to meet with each PCC member 1-to-1 to prepare for a PCC discussion and build support for a decision to… Read more »
Martin Hughes
6 hours ago
The schism is coming, isn’t it?
Fr Dean
5 hours ago
Nobody’s going to force anyone to officiate at a same sex blessing ceremony much less a wedding. These are nasty people trying to queer (sic) the pitch for others.
Rich
4 hours ago
I notice a new Communion is forming according to Gafcon, with new Head to be elected. Can we have a new thread on that?
Adrian Clarke
4 hours ago
A classic dead cat PR stunt! Why publish a story about a now obsolete document, if not to deflect attention.
I am intrigued and disturbed by this word “persuasion” . It smacks of coercion and manipulation, and the implication is that a church leader (clearly male) should persuade a PCC to act in such a way or another. Its all very Trump-esque and feels like we are at a time when scripture dictates rather than liberates.
“Persuade” is a word chosen by the headline writers of The Church Times, not the manual writers of The Alliance. In the linked document that word is never used. I imagine they chose it because they think it has the connotations which you hear – The Church Times is pretty clear that it dislikes The Alliance.
The two go together. ‘If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.’
365 days to chose from for their Action Day and they choose World Aids Day.
I may have misread the latest from the House of Bishops’ latest meeting report but I thought they had agreed that the decision to introduce bespoke services and allowing clergy to marry same sex partners would be subject to Canon 2b (or whichever it is), and that was an aim of the Alliance and some other groups. That proposal is unlikely to happen soon, I would have thought. The suite of prayers for use in services remain for use if desired but without any compulsion to use them (or penalty).
Incumbents typically strive for consensus on their PCCs, mindful of the requirement as we live together to have a measure of unity which allows the Church to work in its mission. Most PCCs navigate differences with charity, tolerance and kindness. Obviously, this unity is a biblical injunction as well. The Alliance ‘Campaign Manual’ takes a different tack and recommends nobbling each PCC member ahead of the official meeting. The recommendation put like this: “Church leaders to gather a small group to meet with each PCC member 1-to-1 to prepare for a PCC discussion and build support for a decision to… Read more »
The schism is coming, isn’t it?
Nobody’s going to force anyone to officiate at a same sex blessing ceremony much less a wedding. These are nasty people trying to queer (sic) the pitch for others.
I notice a new Communion is forming according to Gafcon, with new Head to be elected. Can we have a new thread on that?
A classic dead cat PR stunt! Why publish a story about a now obsolete document, if not to deflect attention.
I have followed TA for a long time. I would be surprised if your conspiratorial insinuation is fair.
The editors of TA publish all sorts of material across the range of positions at various times.
They are certainly not conservatives, but they are good journalists and they serve free speech with integrity