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Remain Episcopal carries news of this:

Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin Listening Tour

The Rev. Canon Bob Moore, appointed by Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori as an interim pastoral presence in the Diocese of San Joaquin, will make a 5-day “Listening Tour” of the central valley.

From January 21st through the 25th, Canon Bob will travel the valley meeting with both clergy and laity who wish to remain in the Episcopal Church in the Diocese of San Joaquin. At stops in Stockton, Lodi, Fresno, Hanford, Bakersfield, and other towns in between, Canon Bob will listen to the stories, concerns and hopes of the Episcopal faithful in San Joaquin. To assure that your parish, clergy or laity group is included in the Listening Tour, please contact us at contact@remainepiscopal.org…

…At the conclusion of the Listening Tour, the Rev. Canon Bob Moore, interim pastoral presence in San Joaquin appointed by Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, will keynote a day-long gathering at the Church of the Saviour in Hanford on Saturday, January 26th, 2008. Canon Bob will be joined by special guest Bonnie Anderson, President of the House of Deputies of the Episcopal Church. This will be Bonnie’s second visit to San Joaquin following an event in Lodi held in February, 2007. Both Canon Bob and Bonnie will address those gathered and have additional time set aside to take questions.

There was also a report on Episcopal News Service In San Joaquin, Episcopal Church ‘alive and well’.

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Cheryl Va. Clough
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This is wonderful news. My prayers are that both types of congregations are allowed to prosper and grow as God sees fit. My prayers are especially with those that others tried to deprive of a home and I am grateful that the TEC is taking steps to succour them.

drdanfee
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drdanfee

So good to hear about something in this diocese besides how the rest of us are going to hell in a hand basket because we differ or even dissent from the closed views the former diocese preached were the only possible Anglican views. De facto, it seems clear that the old diocese is no longer – doubled up contrary claims by the former constituents notwithstanding – and so as always, life goes on. TEC wasn’t supposed to exist in the first place, owing to the upstart former colonies who had rejected the crown and the empire. Like VGR who was… Read more »

Joe
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Joe

I do hope Canon Bob has asked permission of the Bishop.

Pat O'Neill
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Pat O'Neill

“I do hope Canon Bob has asked permission of the Bishop.”

Why? Schofield is no longer the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin. He is the bishop of the Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin of the Province of the Southern Cone. Canon Bob doesn’t need his permission to visit Episcopal churches in his domain, anymore than he would need the permission of the Roman Catholic bishop for the diocese covering that area.

Tobias Haller
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Besides, Joe, no permission is needed for a “listening tour” nor is permission required even for priestly sacramental or liturgical acts unless carried out for more than two months.

Joe
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Joe

“Canon Bob doesn’t need his permission to visit Episcopal churches in his domain, anymore than he would need the permission of the Roman Catholic bishop…”

Oh, so you’re saying that TEC is not part of the Anglican communion? Such hypocrites! You can’t have it both ways: claiming border violations on the one hand and then doing it on the other.

The end is near…

Ford Elms
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Ford Elms

“Oh, so you’re saying that TEC is not part of the Anglican communion? Such hypocrites! You can’t have it both ways: claiming border violations on the one hand and then doing it on the other.” Who is violating what border? There is no bishop in San Joaquin. Their former bishop abandoned them and moved to the Southern Cone. He is attempting, so I understand, to organize a diocese of the Southern Cone in the territory of the TEC diocese of San Joaquin. I have no idea how far along he is in this process. Even when he has done so,… Read more »

drdanfee
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drdanfee

Okay, right back atcha Mr. J. One cannot be logically consistent as one violates a province or diocese – and even at the parish level, as one attempts to take money and property out of the given existing diocese/province – while at the same time one claims that (1) the Anglican Communion as a whole is somehow morally and theologically (let alone legally, institutionally?) separate from the parts one either wishes to raid and control or wishes to exclude and destroy; nor while further claiming (2) that the categorically separated whole justifies mistreatment (let alone destruction by so-called Anglican realignment)… Read more »

Pat O'Neill
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Pat O'Neill

“”Canon Bob doesn’t need his permission to visit Episcopal churches in his domain, anymore than he would need the permission of the Roman Catholic bishop…” Oh, so you’re saying that TEC is not part of the Anglican communion? Such hypocrites! You can’t have it both ways: claiming border violations on the one hand and then doing it on the other. The end is near… “ The only border violation that occurred here is when the province of the Southern Cone admitted Schofield and his followers into itself. There is still an Episcopal diocese of San Joaquin, one that, for the… Read more »

Malcolm+
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Even if the Southern Cone annexation were valid (which it ain’t) the former Episcopal bishop resident in Fresno as an Anglican Bishop has already stated that he accepts the continued presence of continuing Episcopalians. Thus, even if John David were a bishop in the Anglican Communion (which is now canonically dubious) he himself has established that the case is comparable to the overlapping jurisdictions in Europe.