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Church Representation Rules 2011

A new edition of the Church Representation Rules of the Church of England has been published: Church Representation Rules 2011. The previous edition was dated 2006, and since then changes have been made to the rules by the Dioceses, Pastoral and Mission Measure 2007 and the Church Representation Rules (Amendment) Resolution 2009.

I have listed below the fold a summary of these changes.

It is important to note that there is no fully up-to-date copy of the Rules available online.

The Rules originated as Schedule 3 to the Synodical Government Measure 1969, but they have been amended many times since then. Although the online text of the Measure is updated to incorporate amendments, there is a timelag, and the notes at the beginning of the online text of Schedule 3 list changes dating back to 2003 that have not yet been made.

It should also be noted that the rules in the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are not necessarily the same as in England.

Changes made by the Church Representation Rules (Amendment) Resolution 2009

Replace Rule 13 by “13. Elections of churchwardens shall be conducted, at a meeting of parishioners, in accordance with the provisions of sections 4 and 5 of the Churchwardens Measure 2001.”

A number of changes to Rules 19 (Joint parochial church councils), 20 (Team councils) and 21 (Group councils)

A reduction in the minimum size of diocesan synods from 120 to 100 (Rule 31(8))

An increase in the minimum nomination period for diocesan synod elections from 14 to 21 days (Rule 32(4))

The correction of an error in paragraph 5 of Appendix II

Changes made by the Dioceses, Pastoral and Mission Measure 2007

Section 49(4) added a new Rule 27A.
27A Representation of persons to whom mission orders relate
(1) Any diocesan synod may, at the request of the bishop or bishops who has or have made a bishop’s mission order under section 47 of the Dioceses, Pastoral and Mission Measure 2007 which is in force, provide by scheme for representation on such deanery synod as may be determined by or under the scheme of such persons to whom the order relates as may be specified in or under the scheme.
(2) The provisions of rule 26(2) shall apply to schemes made under this rule.

Section 63(6) and Schedule 7 removed all references to Area Synods from Rules 24(6)(b) and 34(1)(c).

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Richard Ashby
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Richard Ashby

I wonder why the Church makes the Representation Rules available for sale only in hard copy. I would have thought that this is just the sort of resource which out to be available for free on-line, especially at the present time in this season of Annual Meetings. These Rules are important to Clergy and Churchwardens, PCC, Deanery and Diocesan Synod members, yet most of these people only need to refer to them occasionally. Making the rules available in hard copy only and for sale means that the rules go unread and un-implemented and the synodical system is compromised.

John Wallace
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John Wallace

I agree with Richard. I wanted to check the most up to date version as I have the 2006 edition. From your article, it doesn’t seem that what I was querying has changed but it would be good to be able to confirm on-line

Erika Baker
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Erika Baker

It would also be the environmentally friendly thing to do. The church should lead by example here.

A searchable version would be extremely helpful. If necessary, an annual access fee or subscription could be charged per parish.

David Willmets
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David Willmets

Perhaps PCCs should ask their Deanery Synod reps to raise it with a view pushing the suggestion up the Synod chain?

S Evans
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S Evans

Could somebody advise me if there is a standard form for both nominations and re-election of pcc members at APCM

David Lamming
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David Lamming

I also agree with Richard Ashby. As Peter Owen notes in his introductory remarks, although the rules have been amended substantially (and many times) since by subsequent Measures and Amendment Resolutions of General Synod, their origin is Schedule 3 to the Synodical Government Measure 1969. As such, they are a form of primary legislation and ought to be readily accessible online (and without charge) to incumbents, churchwardens, PCC secretaries and others in their up-to-date form. Now that the 2011 edition has been published, incorporating the latest amendments, they could easily be put online and the Archbishops’ Council (who claim to… Read more »

EDWARD BYGOTT
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EDWARD BYGOTT

I agree. best through Amazon.
Too much rule making.

Janet L. Mitchell
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Janet L. Mitchell

If the Church of England does not set enough store by its ‘Church Representation Rules’ sufficiently to make copies easily accessible, up-to-date and affordable how on earth does it expect PCC Secretaries able to make them relevant to PCC members and/or parishioners. The rules present a good discipline for all to adhere to but the importance of them is not substantiated. In effect if members do not know what they are or their purpose it is hard to persuade them otherwise without ‘hands on’ authority from above!!

Shaun
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Shaun

When someone submits the form to go on the electoral roll (in normal time, not the run up to the APCM) does the membership apply as soon as the Electoral Roll Officer receives it, or does it need PCC approval first?

David Lamming
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David Lamming

The answer to Shaun’s question is: as soon as the electoral roll officer (ERO) adds the person’s name to the roll. The ERO must report the addition to the next meeting of the PCC (CRR rule 1(8)) but there is no requirement in the rules for PCC approval or ratification. Since a person who signs an application form for enrolment is “entitled” to have his name entered on the roll (see rule 1(2)), the ERO, whose duty it is to “keep the the roll constantly up to date by the addition and removal of names as from time to time… Read more »

Shaun
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Shaun

Thanks. I thought that was the case, but was in another church this week and a retired priest said it was only valid after PCC approval. He may have been confusing it with the period in the run up to an APCM when forms can be submitted but not added to the roll.

John Tompkins
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John Tompkins

Why can’t they tell us when things are available? I have been talking to the Diocesan Secretary about changes since 2006, but he never mentioned that the CRR was available in electronic form via email!! I only found this out today in the European Anglican as it was included in an article. Unfortunately this is too late for me as I only read the article after the diocesan office had closed, and our AGM is tomorrow.

Richard
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Richard

Please can you tell me what happens if at the Annual Vestry Meeting one of the elected PCC members 2009 – 2012 is elected Churchwarden? Does there immediately become a vacancy on PCC to fill? We have our Annual Church Meeting immediately after the Annual Vestry Meeting on Tuesday 19th April.

Richard Huss
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Richard Huss

As Peter says, there is not an automatic vacancy in these circumstances.

But there’s nothing to stop the newly elected Churchwarden (assuming they are indeed elected) resigning – in writing, to the PCC secretary – from his or her position as an elected lay representative, if they decide they would like to. It would seem prudent to wait until the election of Churchwardens has taken place before handing over the letter of resignation.

Richard
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Richard

Following on from my last question. Can an elected PCC member elected as Churchwarden at the vestry meeting resign their PCC seat with immediate affect if they so wish?

Andy
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Andy

Good afternoon! We are holding our APCM tomorrow evening and I have received 7 nominations for 6 places on our Forum (equivalent to PCC effectively) but a issue has been raised over the validity of two of the nominations regarding their entitlement to stand for election relating to how long they have been on the Church Electoral Roll. My understanding is that, as long as they are on the Roll on the day of the APCM this suffices, but Section 10 (a) of the CIR 2011 has been cited that the names must have been on the Roll for at… Read more »

David Lamming
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David Lamming

Andy —

But note that it would be open to the PCC (if they so decided) to co-opt those who had not been on the roll for six months: see CRR rule 14(1)(h). The “six-months on the roll” requirement in rule 10(1)(a) only applies to the elected members. The qualification for co-option is either to be a clerk in Holy Orders, or to be an “actual lay communicant of 16 years of age or upwards”. (“Actual communicant” is defined in rule 54(1), which includes a requirement that the person’s name is “on the roll of a parish”.)

Richard
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Richard

We have a young person elected onto the PCC for 3 years in April 2010 when she was 16 years of age. Am I correct in thinking that she is able to remain as an elected member or has the age changed when you can become an elected member of PCC? I refer to Peter Owen’s reply about co-opting for 16 year olds upwards dated 13th April 2011.

Geoff
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Geoff

Is it appropriate/permissible for there to be a requirement for questions to the APCM to be submitted in writing before the event, with a consequential ban on questions being submitted during the meeting?

Shaun
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Shaun

This isn’t really a Church Representation Rules matter, but it is canon law and this was the best place I could think of to ask.

There are proposals out for consultation to move some parishes between dioceses in Yorkshire. If an incumbent doesn’t want their parish to move do their freehold rights prevent that parish moving, even if General Synod votes in favour of such changes? Does it make a difference if they are under common tenure?

Christopher
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Christopher

At the first meeting of our ‘new’ PCC after our APCM, we voted unanimously to co-opt two (electoral roll) members of our church onto the council, both of whom had been elected as deputy churchwardens at the APCM. The question of their voting rights on the PCC was raised, and discussion followed as to the ‘legal’ position as laid down by the C of E, &/or the diocese (Salisbury). It was generally, though not unanimously, felt that they had the same entitlements as elected members. I felt that we should try to get clarification on the matter, and my investigations… Read more »

Leslie
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Leslie

Please can you let me know if District Councils (DCCs) “statutory bodies” and what, if any, rights and responsibilities they have. Can they institute requests for change, govern the internal affairs fo their own church, can they make binding decisions independent of their “governing” PCCs? Or do they exist only as subsidiary consultation councils / talking shops and the PCC of the team ministry does not have to take notice of what they decide or discuss. Also how is membership of a DCC determined – by the PCC, or by the congregation of a team church having a DCC?

Sarah
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Sarah

I heard recently that there is a requirement to hold at least one communion service a month in each parish in a benefice or group. Is this correct? Where can I find written evidence? I can’t find it in the CRR but I’ve only got the 2006 version.

Terry Corbett
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I could’t go to my APCM or the preceding PCC meeting as I wasn’t well and have subsequently discovered that I have been dropped from my PCC on the gounds that I had served for too long. My PCC Secretary has sent me a copy of the minutes stating this: ” The Rector began his report by informing the PCC that all present Lay Members had completed their term of office and thanked them for their contribution to the running of xxxxx Church. The present system as instructed by the Diocese is to retire and elect one third of Lay… Read more »

Terry Corbett
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Thank you for that, Peter

David Lamming
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David Lamming

May I add a few more details to Peter’s reply to Terry Corbett? (1) Although the APCM may decide that there should be a limit (specified) on the number of years continuous service by a PCC member and decide also the minimum interval after which such a person may stand again for election, such a resolution is not retrospective: see CRR rule 17. Accordingly, your rector was in error if he sought to prevent anyone standing again on the basis of adopting the diocesan model for the year 2011 to 2012. (2) The minutes you cite refer to electing “the… Read more »

Richard
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Richard

Our stipendary curate attends PCC meetings and is a valued member of the PCC. Please can you tell me under what capacity he attends PCC meetings? As a co-opted member, ex-officio member or as something else?

Sarah
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Sarah

The form for applying to be on an electoral roll includes the declaration ‘I am a member of the Church of England’. What is there to prevent someone who for example is a practising Roman Catholic making that declaration? I cannot find a definition of ‘member of the Church of England’ anywhere so how can it be argued that such a person is not entitled to make that declaration? It seems nonsense if they can.

David Lamming
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David Lamming

Sarah — Rule 1(2) of the CRR provides: “A lay person shall be entitled to have his name entered on the roll of a parish if he is baptised, of sixteen years or upwards, has signed an application form for enrolment set out in Appendix I of these rules and declares himself either (a) to be a member of the Church of England or of a Church in communion therewith resident in the parish; or (b) to be such a member and, not being resident in the parish, to have habitually attended public worship in the parish during a period… Read more »

Sarah
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Sarah

Thank you David for your reply. I too am surprised that the declaration ‘I am a member of the Church of England’ is so ill-defined that it appears a practising Roman Catholic can legitimately be on an electoral roll. In our parish there are RCs who do not want to lose the C of E village church because they feel the village is not a proper village without a church. So they have declared themselves members of the Church of England and are now on the electoral roll, even though they are practising Roman Catholics who worship at the Roman… Read more »

Richard Huss
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Richard Huss

Someone applying for electoral roll membership under CRR 1(2)(c) needs to be “a member *in good standing* of a Church which subscribes to the doctrine of the Holy Trinity”.

Would such a Roman Catholic, if regularly receiving Holy Communion in the CofE or playing such a part in its life as you suggest, continue to be “in good standing” in the Roman Catholic church? I had sort of taken this clause to imply that you could declare yourself to be CofE as well *so long as* your other denomination was OK with that.

Trevor Ride
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Trevor Ride

The earlier thread of hardcopy only of the CRR significantly discriminates against people with visual impairment – as someone with such and being a PCC secretary this gives me a problem. Sadly, the CofE seems able to discriminate against disability unchallenged as I find continually in terms of accessing documents, information, educational provision etc.

Ken Shorey
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Ken Shorey

I was told many years ago that parochial representatives to a deanery synod must be confirmed. Is that still correct?

Roger Bryant
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Roger Bryant

Are there any laid down rules as to the number of times per year a pcc member must attend meetings?

David Lamming
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David Lamming

Roger — No — unlike (civil) parish councils where a councillor ceases to be a member of the council if he or she fails to attend any meetings of the council for a period of six months and his or her apologies have not been received or accepted by the council. The Church Representation Rules (CRR) contain no similar provision. Such a non-attending PCC member could (and, perhaps, should) be encouraged to resign (by notice in writing to the PCC secretary: see CRR rule 49) since, plainly, he or she is not participating in the council’s duty to consult with… Read more »

William
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William

Six out of thirteen members of our PCC have sent in apologies for tonights meeting. Do I have a valid PCC meeting?

Kenneth Hobbs
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Kenneth Hobbs

I am a Committee Secretary responsible for minute taking. Once minutes have been approved, can I post them on our Church website, in their entirety? I have a query that our Finances, which will have been discussed at Committee and the Treasurers report formally accepted, should be included as an integral part of the minutes, so therefore should be published. I have read all kinds of advice on the role of minute taking, what to include and what not to include, but what is the overall opinion and where does it state that minutes. once approved, should be posted on… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

During an interregnum, if the vice-chair of the PCC either hasn’t been appointed or isn’t present / doesn’t want to chair, is it in order for a retired priest holding the title ‘honourary curate’ to chair a PCC meeting or does it have to be a lay person?