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ACC-16 – ACNS reports

Updated

Since the close of this month’s meeting of the Anglican Consultative Council the Anglican Communion News Service has published a number of articles about its work, including these, all by Gavin Drake.

Reformation and unity in ACC’s ecumenical resolutions
Provinces urged to adopt Anglican Communion Sunday
Central Africa applied “embassy” protocol for ACC’s visiting female priests
Anglican Consultative Council adopts 45 resolutions by assent
Men and boys have role in fight for gender justice

Update

Before the ACC meeting, ACNS published this video: Gender justice and the Anglican Communion.

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The ACNS article describes the ‘decision making process’ at ACC-16 with respect to resolutions. But the Primates demanded “[TEC] will not take part in decision making on any issues pertaining to doctrine or polity.”

The next shoe to drop will perhaps be an article from this voice of The communion offering an opinion on whether or not any of the resolutions from ACC -16 are considered “doctrine or polity”. Seems like the GAFCON guys are trying to nail jello to the wall.

Rod Gillis
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Here is a joyful postmortem from the Canadian delegation to ACC 16.

http://www.anglicanjournal.com/articles/acc-meeting-emphasized-common-goals-delegates-say

JCF
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JCF

“There are several people who would ordain women to the priesthood tomorrow if they were together as one mind of the Province. That is part of the sacrificial waiting, sacrificial giving”

Argh, this CANARD again. Christianity talks about Christ and Christ-like OFFERING of “sacrifice”. Not IMPOSING it, which is what is going on here (women having their divine calls sacrificed by a male hierarchy exerting Power-Over).

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

‘ACC adopts 45 resolutions by assent’. Well, this really brightened up my morning. just like the Primates’ resolutions. Does anyone in any of your parishes even know who they are? Can we stop paying for this nonsense now?

Father David
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Father David

How encouraging to have such an upbeat and positive response to the Lusaka gathering from the Canadian delegate. How unusual to have a glass half full report concerning the Anglican Communion when more often than not we usually have negative glass half empty or even glass totally drained responses. I look forward,one day, in eager anticipation to a “cup runneth over” report about the world wide Anglican Communion

Jim Naughton
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Jim Naughton

Rod, you have read the ACNS story on the resolutions pretty much as I have, as an effort to say that nobody actually voted on anything except the ACC’s carbon footprint. This report has ACC members I have spoken to wondering why they were repeatedly asked to raise their hands if they were in favor or opposed to something. At some point an argument can become too silly to be worth winning, and I think the argument about the “consequences” has passed that point.

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ JCF, Perhaps ‘kyriarchy’, rather than ‘hierarchy’ (Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza is credited with coining the term), is the more accurate term. Instance for example female bishops who toe the establishment line with regard to same sex marriage, or North American and English conservatives who support GAFCON on ‘moral’ issues but who would not be prepared to live with other features of the societies where GAFCON is based.

James Byron
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James Byron

“… female bishops who toe the establishment line with regard to same sex marriage …” Ah yes, the leaders of the campaign for equal ordination, women who boldly took on the establishment, women who marched and lobbied and protested; but women who, the moment they got what they wanted, dropped their radicalism and parroted the exact same rhetoric that’d been used against them. I support equal ordination, of course I do, and many campaigners support equality across the board: but given the wholesale abandonment of LGBT people by its leading lights the moment they donned the purple, let’s not pretend… Read more »

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ Jim Naughton, Jim what is your take on the ACNS? For example, The Anglican Journal has an independent editorial policy. In the case of ACNS, I’m unclear here, is it journalism or the PR arm of the The Communion office, I wonder?

S Cooper
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How great Canada filed a happy report! Is that the same Anglican Church in Canada which is not going forward with gay marriage? How happy in the acc…

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ S cooper, “Is that the same Anglican Church in Canada which is not going forward with gay marriage?” Probably. The General Synod is to vote on first reading in July. Canonical amendments require a 2/3 majority in each order of bishops, clergy, laity. The order of bishops which meets as a House of Bishops between the GS, has informed the church that it believes the required 2/3 majority is not present in their order. The House of Bishops has about 40 members. So the number of bishops who can act as spoiler here is about a dozen. About 1/3… Read more »

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ James Byron, James might not a little care be taken with regard to the generic term “women”? Are there some women who favored equality for GLBTQ folks but who changed views after being made bishops? Or, is it that only women who were known to be more conservative on the issue of same sex marriage were considered for appointment? This is why the term ‘kyriarchy’ and the analysis which it grounds, and advanced by a feminist thinker, may be of some use, in understanding how a person may be both oppressed and privileged at the same time. The attached… Read more »

Susannah Clark
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James Byron raises a valuable point: how many of the women consecrated as bishops are willing to cross the line on the collective position that gay and lesbian couples cannot share the joys, blessings and affirmations afforded to heterosexual couples? Human rights intersect, and are indivisible… because their suppression nearly always comes from the same problem with power and an embedded system of power. You can’t really champion women’s rights but not the rights of gay and lesbian people, (not to forget other minorities). If women simply gain consecration to become part of an establishment that repudiates gay and lesbian… Read more »

James Byron
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James Byron

Rod, I used the gendered term ’cause you referred specifically to female bishops: if you’d referred to the entire bench, I’d have used a gender-neutral term.

As it happens, one of the worst offenders is George Carey, who called opposition to equal ordination heresy, while overseeing Lambeth ’98.

Susannah has it dead on: equality’s indivisible. Selective equality is nonsensical, and regardless of gender, many bishops have been craven, in England certainly, but also in Canada, in Australia, in every province that ran from equality so they could run with the crowd.

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ James Byron. OK James I got it. And, I agree that equality/justice is indivisible. What about the TEC bishops who will opt out? Where do they fit in the picture?

Rod Gillis
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Rod Gillis

@ Susannah Clark, “And then again, the same might be said of priests as well. Why don’t they break ranks, and simply go ahead …and bless or marry couples, ‘regardless’ of their gender?”

Good question. Apparently Canadian bishops are now living in fear this may happen. (see link). The reality is, of course, it already has.

http://www.anglicanjournal.com/articles/-civil-disobedience-may-arise-if-gay-marriage-rejected