Wednesday, 31 December 2008

Gaza

Updated again Thursday evening

Various Anglican leaders have commented on the current situation in Gaza.

Presiding Bishop joins call for end to Gaza attacks

MIDDLE EAST: Jerusalem bishop issues statement on Gaza

MIDDLE EAST: Patriarchs, heads of Jerusalem churches issue ecumenical statement on Gaza

Statements from around the Communion on the Situation in Gaza.

Archbishop’s statement on Gaza (Archbishop of Canterbury)

New Year’s Day News from Gaza

Posted by Simon Sarmiento on Wednesday, 31 December 2008 at 7:02pm GMT | TrackBack
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It probably would have been more prudent, politically, for the PB not to mention the presence of "Orthodox Jews" in the demonstration at the Israeli embassy. They were Neturei Karta, a charedi ("ultra Orthodox") group almost universally despised in the wider Jewish community. Not for their non-recognition of Israel and criticism of Zionism; that's par for the course for charedim. NK is mostly known for consistently sucking up to people like Ahmadinejad, most famously by attending the International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust in Tehran, in 2006. Recently they chastised the Chabad movement, claiming that the murder of the Jews in Mumbai was the just vengeance of an angry God for colluding with Zionists. They have zero credibility with most Jews; if ++KJS meant to be appeal to Jews/Israelis by bringing up NK, it was a mistake.

Posted by: BillyD on Wednesday, 31 December 2008 at 8:33pm GMT

Such a tragedy as is now unfolding in Gaza and the Middle East is symptomatic of how religious fervour can exacerbate hatred between communities in which each faction believes they have the correct version of what God might be calling them to do to survive with integrity.

Abraham, the Father of All Nations, too, must be weeping over the present stand-off between Jews and Muslims in the Lands of the Bible. Christians are involved too, because of our own insularity and intransigence over which 'side' we feel we ought to be supporting in the conflict.

Is this not a sad reflection on the conflicts going on at this moment in the Church in general and our own Anglican Communion in particular? At this Season, when we are celebrating the coming of the Prince of Peace, the tragedy of the Holy Lands should draw our attention to the fact of our common human tendency to over-ride the Spirit of convergence for which Jesus was born, lived and died. In our need to prove that we are always 'in the right', we often seek to suppress the integrity of the Faith of others.

The Jewish, Arabic and Christian strands of Faith all have Abraham as their progenitor. Why does each strand struggle for pre-eminence, when all humanity is formed in the divine Image and Likeness?

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Wednesday, 31 December 2008 at 9:55pm GMT

While the people on one side live in relative comfort and the others live in overly crowded and somewhat destitute conditions can we expect anything else but the present mess? The inequality doesn't help the situation. Work is hard to find. I'm would surmise that self esteem and a sense of hope are very low. There are two sides to this sad situation.

Posted by: BobinSWPA on Friday, 2 January 2009 at 3:41am GMT

The statements of the religious leaders are moving and eloquent, but they are not action. If the PB of the American church, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the other Christian leaders including the Pope truly wished to make a difference, they would announce their intention to physically travel to Gaza, and would remain there until the bombing stopped. The Israelis would *probably* not dare risk the deaths of so many prominent Christians, and Christian leaders would have actually made a statement about Christian values rather than issued one.

Yes, of course, the thought of such an act is so bizarre, so far beyond the moon, that most people would assume I'm just making a sick joke. But how long has it been since Christian "leaders" actually stood up to evil? How long since any of them actually put anything at all except words on the line for the beliefs they hold?

Such an act, which will of course never happen, would show the kind of courage only the Chinese "house church" Christians are brave enough to demonstrate in our day. And it would show what Christianity is truly worth to its adherents: "Blessed are the peacemakers."

Posted by: H. Lee on Friday, 2 January 2009 at 4:27am GMT

"If the PB of the American church, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the other Christian leaders including the Pope truly wished to make a difference, they would announce their intention to physically travel to Gaza..."

Two problems: (a) the Israeli authorities would never allow them to enter Gaza; quite possibly, they might bar the clerics from Israel itself; (b) would Hamas, a fervently Islamist organization, welcome or allow them in?

Posted by: BillyD on Friday, 2 January 2009 at 11:01am GMT

An interesting suggestion H. Lee. So how about proposing its mirror image. Have those same leaders head for towns in southern Israel and ask yourself the question: Would Hamas stop sending the rocket attacks?

Posted by: Dan on Friday, 2 January 2009 at 5:01pm GMT

H.Lee, it also occurred to me that if the Christian leaders were successful in getting into Gaza, there would exist the strong possibility of their being used as human shields - not to protect civilians, but to protect rocket crews and arms supplies. After all, Hamas (and militant Islamists in general) seem to have little scruples about using their own civilians as human shields, and would have less hesitancy to shooting Kassams and Grads from behind an archbishop or two. In that case, the Christian leaders would be actually helping to further and prolong the violence, not stop it.

Posted by: BillyD on Friday, 2 January 2009 at 7:43pm GMT

Dear people,

As I said, it's a crazy, impossible idea. The trouble is, all the reasonable, measured ideas have been powerless to stop this mess for more than half a century. Maybe it's time to stop being so logical, restrained, and cautious with our faith.

There is no point in trying to predict what Hamas would do in this or that hypothetical situation. What a *Christian* is supposed to do, I believe, is to put Love on the ground where it's needed, and leave the outcome to God.

The PB and the ABC and all the other venerable acronyms have been given the highest honors the Church provides. They preside over beautiful and time-hallowed ceremonies in elegant costumes. I love the ceremonies, myself; I love the costumes. But aren't they supposed to *stand for* something? For all the honors and grandeur and prestige and respect these folks get with their titles, is it too much to ask that they take a few risks to show what Christianity is all about?

In any case, I don't think we need to worry about any of them setting foot on a battlefield very soon. But I do think that if they're not going to risk anything to help, they should have the grace to shut up. The world's poor are not perishing for lack of eloquent speeches. They are perishing for lack of Love in action.

I sound far more self-righteous and grim than I have any reason to be. I'm a very ordinary person with probably less than ordinary courage or insight. I could and probably should put my thoughts more tactfully, but I truly wonder if for all our talk about the love of God, most of us Christians just like the games and the glitter.

Posted by: H. Lee on Saturday, 3 January 2009 at 1:38am GMT

"But I do think that if they're not going to risk anything to help, they should have the grace to shut up. The world's poor are not perishing for lack of eloquent speeches. They are perishing for lack of Love in action." - H. Lee -

H. Lee, you may be right on this, but how about giving a lead yourself? This might do more than a thousand words on the web. We should never expect of others what we are not prepared to do ourselves

Kalo Epiphania

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Saturday, 3 January 2009 at 6:27pm GMT

FWIW, I went to Iraq with the Christian Peacemaker Teams (http://www.cpt.org) in March of 2003. We knew the invasion was coming; we just didn't know when. We stayed 10 days, and drove out of Baghdad, back to Jordan, nine days before the invasion.

I wasn't brave enough to stay; I had a return ticket and used it. But other CPT members did stay, through the bombardment and through the war. Some are there today. If I had the guts and the finances, I'd be with them, but I don't.

You are right that I shouldn't challenge others to risk something if I'm not willing to risk it. But I can't help but feel that the "luminaries" of our church owe something more than fine speeches to the cause of our faith. Maybe "From him who has been given much, much will be demanded" is Marx rather than Jesus -- I don't recall -- but today, to me, it makes sense.

Posted by: H. Lee on Saturday, 3 January 2009 at 11:05pm GMT

Thank you, H. Lee, for your witness then, and your challenge today.

Why, BillyD, do you assume that any Christian peacemakers who would stand w/ the Palestinian people while bombs fall on them, would not equally stand up to Hamas, if they tried to co-opt them? (Methinks your bias is showing). Yes, let Christians make their witness in Israeli towns where rockets have fallen, ALSO.

Lord have mercy.
Christ have mercy.
Lord have mercy!

Posted by: JCF on Sunday, 4 January 2009 at 10:11pm GMT

"Why, BillyD, do you assume that any Christian peacemakers who would stand w/ the Palestinian people while bombs fall on them, would not equally stand up to Hamas, if they tried to co-opt them?"
Oh, were you thinking that the Christian leaders would be armed? If not, I'm not sure how much standing up to Hamas they could do, since Hamas has shown itself quite capable of using arms against their own people (witness the "execution" of "collaborators" and Fatah supporters that have happened in recent days, including in hospitals). No, I don't think that the AoC and the PB could stand up to an armed militia by themselves (unless martyrdom pure and simple were the goal).

Posted by: BillyD on Monday, 5 January 2009 at 11:04am GMT

Well, sad as it is, the real solution is for the return of Jesus Christ, which is just around the corner. There will be no peace on this earth until the Prince of Peace returns. In the meantime pray for the poor people on both sides who are just caught in the middle of the war mongers on both sides. God doesn't choose sides in war, so there is no side to choose. However, It appears that God is allowing the cup of iniquity of some to be filled. The Lord loves the poor. Both the old testament and new testament have verses that say that by being kind to the poor we are in fact giving to God. The opposite is also true. Those who mistreat the poor are mistreating God. There will come a time when God will say, "enough is enough" Sorry, mankind now the whole universe has seen what Man without God will do to the earth and his fellowman. Now everyone can see that you had a chance to make things right, you "blew it" so I am sending my son Jesus again, but this time not as a babe, not as a lamb, but as a roaring lion with a sword in his hand for the conquest of earth to be given to the peacemakers and "to hell with the warmongers" (literally)So don't expect anything to get better through this or that action. The best action is to get people ready to receive the soon returning King of Kings. That is our only hope.It might sound like only words, but words in prayer can do mighty things. Pray for all the people involved, and pray against the warmongers.

Posted by: William on Tuesday, 6 January 2009 at 2:50pm GMT

"...pray against the warmongers."

Surely we should pray for them even more than for their victims. And prayer is not a weapon.

Posted by: Ford Elms on Tuesday, 6 January 2009 at 7:56pm GMT

For H Lee- I hear you, but in devaluing heartfelt words, aren't you also doing so for your own here? As humans, words, sincere ones, are part of our scope for action. If the peoples of the Middle-East would only resolve their differences through talking to each other, we would all be in a much better position. I don't think it would be brave for religious leaders to go undefended to such places, it would actually be foolhardy.

Also, it is worth remembering that whilst both sides have built underground networks with their extensive aid budgets, Israel has civilian bomb shelters, whereas Hamas invested in a tunnel network for it's fighters and actually seems to hope it's civilians become victims.

Love is deeds, love is words, love is prayer, whatever makes the most sense. To my mind it is prayer that helps the most. The lack of love in that region, creating a void in which hatred manifests itself seems to be the biggest problem. It does concern me that so many think that stigmatising the (imperfectly) democratic and pluralist Israel is going to bring any sort of real peace. Making them more secure would be the best way to help- they certainly have the institutions in place to be a real benefit to the region.

In the longer term, a more enlightened perspective in which everyone feels secure is what that region needs. Violence is a symptom of a deeper problem- the same one Europe once, quite recently in the grand scale of things, suffered from.

Posted by: G Davidson on Thursday, 15 January 2009 at 3:17am GMT
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