Thursday, 25 June 2009

more about ACNA

Updated Friday morning

The Church of Uganda has issued this statement:

Church of Uganda Declares itself in Full Communion with Anglican Church in North America

The House of Bishops of the Church of Uganda, in its regularly scheduled meeting on 23rd June 2009, made several resolutions concerning the state of the Anglican Communion and the future of global Anglicanism.

…Finally, concerning the formation of the Anglican Church in North America, the House of Bishops resolved that it warmly supports the creation of the new Province in North America, the Anglican Church in North America, recognizes Bishop Bob Duncan as its new Archbishop, and declares that it is in full communion with the Anglican Church in North America.

Likewise, the Bishops resolved to release, effective immediately, the Bishops, clergy and churches in America under its ecclesiastical oversight and to transfer them to the Anglican Church in North America. The House of Bishops further resolved to continue its partnership and friendship with them in mission and ministry, extends its hand of fellowship, and wishes them well…

Progressive Episcopalians of Pittsburgh has issued this statement:

ACNA Faces Difficult, Divisive Future

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania — June 25, 2009 — The Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) faces a difficult and uncertain future. The new “Anglican” denomination formed this week in Bedford, Texas, that elected Robert W. Duncan, deposed Episcopal Bishop of Pittsburgh, as its archbishop, seems more likely to fracture the Anglican Communion permanently than to strengthen or “reform” it.

ACNA faces the difficult task of embracing diversity while adhering to the restrictive polity, theology, and membership set out in the Global Anglican Future Conference’s Jerusalem Declaration. The disparate groups that met in Texas have in common a desire to be a part of the Anglican Communion, a disdain for The Episcopal Church and for the Anglican Church of Canada, and a passionate desire to believe as they think their forebears have always believed. Future conflicts over polity, power, and theology appear inevitable…

Friday morning update

ENS has a report North American Anglican group holds inaugural gathering and another one UGANDA: Bishops declare full communion with Anglican Church in North America.

The Church Times has this: North American Anglicans hold inaugural gathering.

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I feel glad the ACNA folks have gone off to wherever it is they have thought along they must go to achieve many with irresponsible leadership this group of worshippers left a terrible mess as they focused on themselves. All will be dealt with in a orderly way...there is a bit more confusion to unravel, but we don´t worry, there are honorable, talented and loyal people in place throughout The Episcopal Church.

Finally, today, all is more peaceful at The Episcopal Church.

The Episcopal Church WELCOMES everyone at all levels of Churchlife.

Thanks be to God

Posted by: Leonardo Ricardo on Friday, 26 June 2009 at 3:06am BST

How I wish I could join TEC- will they ever set up in the UK I wonder ?

Posted by: Rev L Roberts on Friday, 26 June 2009 at 2:00pm BST

This is another "dog bites man" story. TEC and the CofE are in "full communion" with a number of denominations/churches. That doesn't make them Anglican. TEC is discussing communion with the Moravians.

There's nothing to see here.

Posted by: ruidh on Friday, 26 June 2009 at 3:23pm BST

Nice one, Rev L.

Posted by: john on Friday, 26 June 2009 at 6:52pm BST

How I wish I could join TEC- will they ever set up in the UK I wonder ?

Well, now that 'border crossing' is a well-established practice within the Anglican Communion, I can't see why TEC couldn't send missionaries to England and consecrate bishops for new dioceses made up of congregations commited to a progressive vision of Anglicanism and wanting to stay in full communion with TEC. Does Jeffrey John still want to be a bishop? Rev L, feeling a call to the episcopate yourself? ;-)

What's sauce for the goose... as they say.

Posted by: WilliamK on Friday, 26 June 2009 at 10:31pm BST

Nice thought WilliamK ! But I can't say am aware of any such calll ! ; - ) Just thought it'd be good to be an ordinary member of TEC really. But my sexuality (openly-gay) and spirituality (meditate / practice Mindfulness, have a Zen teacher, and practice a simple moral code involving no alcohol, or meat etc and consort with Friends) must rule me out anyway, (if the so-called 'Buddhist-bishop' nonsense was anything to go by).

Thanks though,

Rev L.

Rev L

Posted by: Rev L Roberts on Saturday, 27 June 2009 at 5:42pm BST

Bishops? Many are called, but few are chosen.

Posted by: Kurt on Sunday, 28 June 2009 at 4:02pm BST

"TEC is discussing communion with the Moravians."

The Moravians on the Labrador have been under the pastoral oversight of the Anglican Bishop of Eastern Newfoundland and Labrador for a number of years.

"a simple moral code involving no alcohol, or meat etc"

What does avoidance of meat have to do with morality?

Posted by: Ford Elms on Monday, 29 June 2009 at 2:02pm BST

"a simple moral code involving no alcohol, or meat etc"

What does avoidance of meat have to do with morality?

Posted by: Ford Elms on Monday, 29 June 2009 at 2:02pm BST

A remarkable question to ask !


Posted by: Rev L Roberts on Wednesday, 1 July 2009 at 12:51am BST

"A remarkable question to ask !"

No, not at all. Are you suggesting that Jesus and the vast majority of Christians down through the ages were immoral? I can only read one page of your second link at the present, and can't read the first one at all. But I will. I will also give you some insight about where I am coming from. As a Newfoundlander, I have been a target, for most of my life, of an evil, vicious, self-serving campaign of slander, lies, and propaganda by the amoral narcissists of the animal rights industry. This has coloured my reaction to environmental issues, even valid ones like global warming. If you profess Jainism or Buddhism, fine. But even Buddhism doesn't completely avoid the eating of meat. There is nothing wrong with eating animals. There is a lot wrong with torturing them to death. There is, I think, a lot wrong with modern agribusiness. But having a chicken for your dinner is morally neutral. Sorry to have implied you are a narcissist. Many people get sucked in by the arguments about "cruelty" and mistake the pang of regret we naturally, and rightfully, feel at the death of an animal for some kind of moral imperative. This is especially easy if they have grown up in a society where animals are cute little playthings in petting zoos and on TV, while meat springs sui generis from a styrofoam tray. But we ought to have some appreciation for the enormity of taking another life so we can survive. That's the way it ought to be. But that normal situation is no reason for us to claim killing an animal is wrong, nor that eating meat, or wearing fur for that matter, is wrong, and certainly not that the people who do these things are somehow immoral. We aren't. And I take just as much offence at your suggestion that I am immoral because I eat meat as I do at the claims of the Consevos that I am immoral because I am gay. I also suspect that each of these statements has similar motivations.

Posted by: Ford Elms on Thursday, 2 July 2009 at 5:04pm BST
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