Monday, 7 June 2010

Pentecost letters: more analyses

Three more articles analysing the letters from Rowan Williams and Katharine Jefferts Schori:

Jim Stockton wrote The power hungry Rowan Williams.

Christopher Seitz wrote God the Holy Spirit and “being led into all truth”.

The Anglican Scotist wrote a short item, titled Williams/ Schori (H/T to Episcopal Café).

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Seitz writes:

"progressivistic orientation of Western consumerism"

Yes, well, need one say more.

Posted by: Martin Reynolds on Monday, 7 June 2010 at 8:12pm BST

Bravo to Anglican Scotist for getting to the core of the diversity/disciplinary dilemma.

Poor Dr. Seitz, he welcomes an open honest church testing of new ideas about queer folks and human global church family, while utterly failing to take account of the empirical gears which have turned us so effectively and relentlessly to the present queer folks hot button controversies. I suppose that if Dr. S acknowledged the striking similarities between one set of flat earthisms (about the earth earth) and the other set (about queer folks being subhuman or not fully human), then his die would be cast - for we all pretty much know how that Galileo-Copernicus-Bruno thing turned out in the longer long runs. It seems parallel to the present hot button letters from Canterbury in another clear respect, insofar as the initial response/reply of traditional believers and church leaders to Gal-Co-Bruno was to trash talk them, police them, punish them. We can probably all agree, looking at that historical church record: Real, serious orthodox efforts were made.

Yet none succeeded, for indeed the Spirit did lead us pretty much all into the new truth - and that not much based on some received legacy reading from any scripture. What a fine four by six, right in Dr. Seitz' eyes. Now that shameless display of sheer willful prejudice will send us right back to some relevant scriptures/gospels, indeed?

Just as soon as enough steam engine pressure builds up to get the police-punish Anglican trains going, expect lots of loud and fancy tuned whistle blowing about how nobody is antigay. Yeah, right.

How odd that those who will stand up for Big Tent Global Anglicanism are now tilted by Canterbury as folks who suffer from the now out of bounds tendency to stand up for queer folks in the Global South Anglican realms as people, too.

Rowan Williams, yelling hard and loud and long, all on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: drdanfee on Monday, 7 June 2010 at 11:54pm BST

'The Seitz position is wooden, ridiculously biblicist over all other texts, past-orientated, inflexible and about uniformity. It is ridiculous: for ethical reasons it should be contested and, ultimately, ignored.'

Thus Pluralist, at the end of his post (one of his best) on CS's piece.

An important rider: there are Evangelicals and conservatives who argue honourably and honestly and with whom one should strive to remain in relationship, as they, on their side, generally do, too; and there is the other type.

Posted by: john on Tuesday, 8 June 2010 at 1:20pm BST

The Pluralist article mentioned above can be found at

Posted by: Simon Sarmiento on Tuesday, 8 June 2010 at 11:04pm BST
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