Saturday, 7 October 2017

Opinion - 7 October 2017

Andrew Brown The Guardian Melvyn Bragg says kids should read the King James Bible. But is it too graphic?

Andrew Lightbown Theore0 Speaking of Anglicanism; speaking of subsidiarity.

Bosco Peters Liturgy Praying Using Technology?

Hayley Matthews ViaMedia.News Primates Meetings – Who’d Be a Prophet?

Lucy Winkett and Sam Wells spoke on “Reforming Church” at St Martin in the Fields in London on 2 October. There are links to the full texts of the talks and to a podcast here. There is a shortened and edited version of Sam’s lecture in yesterday’s Church Times: It’s about abundant life, not hell-avoidance.
This was the second in an autumn series of public lectures on “Reformation” at St Martin in the Fields; the first was by Alister McGrath. Details of the series are here. Podcasts are added here after the event.

Colin Coward Unadulterated Love Gravitational Waves

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Is the Bible too graphic for kids? The former Methodist leader Alison Tomlinson once told me that children in her church complained that the Bible was boring. 'How have we made the Bible boring?' she said in tones of dismay and mystification. Well, we've done it partly by thinking that passages such as the ones Brown cites are inappropriate for children and young people. They have a diet of violence, brutality and sometimes sex from films, DVDs, daytime TV, the internet and even such books as Harry Potter, and we give them a Bible diet of toned down versions of Noah's Ark (minus drowning people & animals) and the Nativity (minus the Slaughter of the Innocents). No wonder they 'grow out of' the Bible so young.

Years ago I commented to a liturgist that the then-new lectionary omitted passages like the rapes of Dinah and Tamar and the sacrifice of Jephthah's daughter. 'Oh, we don't want things like that read in church!' he replied. But by failing to read these graphic and sometimes brutal accounts in churches and schools we deprive ourselves of opportunities to capture the interest of young people and adults. Worse, we deprive ourselves of the chance to preach on topics which personally affect many thousands of people - and we give the impression that the Church does not know about the realities they have to deal with, and has nothing to say to their situation.

Posted by: Janet Fife on Saturday, 7 October 2017 at 12:42pm BST

Lucy Winkett's piece is astoundingly good.

Posted by: badman on Saturday, 7 October 2017 at 3:36pm BST

The Andrew Lightbown essay is engaging.

"I suspect, if they were to speak candidly they would both have to acknowledge the limitations of leadership and the notion that all manner of things can be institutionally planned, managed and controlled." This seems to me a good description of the need of people in leadership positions to have a "game face".

His observations on subsidiarity are first rate.

Posted by: Rod Gillis on Monday, 9 October 2017 at 4:21pm BST

Lucy Winkett's piece is astoundingly good.
I agree, Badman. It certainly is, and deserves a much wider circulation. I am sending copies to the leadership teams at the two small parishes where I am based.

Posted by: Edward Prebble on Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 9:16pm BST

I too agree that Lucy Winkett's piece is excellent. Why is this wise and holy woman not already a bishop in our church?

Posted by: Malcolm Dixon on Thursday, 12 October 2017 at 3:21pm BST

Malcolm's question is a good one and of course we can't know the answer. Maybe she doesn't feel called to the episcopacy? Maybe she hasn't been offered the opportunity? Maybe because she is Rector of one of the most progressive churches in the C of E? Who knows. But it is an interesting question

Posted by: Andrew Lightbown on Thursday, 12 October 2017 at 9:26pm BST
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