Thinking Anglicans

more Nigerian and Network activity in the USA

First, the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) announced a covenant with two North American church bodies:
press release
text of covenant
TLC Nigerian Ecumenical Agreement Snubs ECUSA
Also Nigeria issued this press release:
The miracle of CANA continues!

Second, some follow-up to events in Pittsburgh last week:
TLC Maryland Won’t Recognize Ordination
and Network Strengthens Resolve at Pittsburgh Conference

Maryland – Ihloff letter to the clergy
letter from the Bishop of Washington

Christian Challenge NETWORK BISHOPS TO DISCUSS NIGERIAN ARCHBISHOP’S CALL

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Pete
Pete
16 years ago

Thinking back to the AAC Chapman memo, the increased “noise” being generated by the neo-Puritans leading up to GC 2006 is consistent with their pattern. They know they will get clobbered at GC 2006; so, their leadership (well, I wouldn’t call Bob Duncan a “leader,” that’s being too generous) is pulling out the stops now to try to prepare for ransacking the store later. It would be tempting to take Duncan down now with a presentment and have him deposed; but, I think the mainstream of ECUSA should wait until after GC 2006. Then, by all means depose Duncan, Iker,… Read more »

Göran Koch-Swahne
16 years ago

And they are not adhering to the 14 resolutions of Lambeth 1998.

Kurt
Kurt
16 years ago

“Duncan and Akinola keep screaming “Windsor Report,” but they have no intention of adhering to it. ECUSA should simply bide its time, let Duncan and his gang throw their tantrums, and then finish this thing after GC 2006.”–Pete

My feelings exactly.

Justin Lewis-Anthony
Justin Lewis-Anthony
16 years ago

Is it just me, or do others find the “Miracle at Cana!” imagery distasteful, bordering on blasphemous? IIRC, *the* miracle at Cana was actually the first of our Lord’s signs, his mighty works, enacted that we might believe. It seems presumptuous, to say the least, to compare a schismatic action (at worst) or a petty piece of church government (at best) to the manifestation of the Saviour.

Alan Harrison
Alan Harrison
16 years ago

Errr, how does Iker’s name get in here? Hardly a “neo-puritan”, I would have thought. Isn’t his churchmanship somewhat Catholic? He has certainly appeared at English Forward in Faith functions (as will +Rowan cantuar: this Saturday). The bloke seems fairly C of E to me, inclining gently to the “high” end of the spectrum.

FriarJohn
FriarJohn
16 years ago

Alan,
Bishop Iker in no way “inclines gently.” He’s a full on spike. What you point out though is part of why I think the term “neo-puritan” is a bad one. Not only dose it not refelct the churchmanship of many of the memebers, it also could be considered a slur on the actual puritans.

David Huff
David Huff
16 years ago

Alan, I suppose “neo-puritan” got attached to Bp. Iker based primarily on his *socio-political* views. As a member of the neighboring diocese in Dallas, he’s always struck me as being way off in an extreme, right-wing direction in that regard.

But you’re right, his churchmanship leans much more towards the Anglo-Catholic.

(I’ll save the discussion about “extreme, right-wing, socio-political views” not being a defensible position for Christians for another day 🙂

Alan Harrison
Alan Harrison
16 years ago

Thanks to David and Friar John for their replies. In terms of churchmanship, I thought that Iker was what would once have been called “Prayer Book Catholic”, rather like Hayes, where I worship, rather than an ultramontane in the tradition of, say, Fr Fynes-Clinton, Fr Hope Patten or Fr Brindley. I take the point about his being right-wing in terms of secular politics, even by American standards. I gather that this isn’t uncommon in FiF NA. I was onced move to protest at a piece on the FiF web site by another American prelate – OK, Schofield! – whose comments… Read more »

John Henry
John Henry
16 years ago

Bishop Jack Iker is a strong, vocal opponent of the ordination of women to the presbyterate and the episcopate. It’s only a matter of time before the Anglican Network folks divide among themselves over the ordination of women. Right now that issue is on the back-burner since the dissident group gets more traction on the Gay and Lesbian issue. Once again politics trumps biblical issues even among the ‘reasserters’, opportunists that they are.

John Henry
John Henry
16 years ago

Alan Harrison:

Several months ago one of the U.S. television news services showed the Anglican Network bishops meeting with President George W Bush. There is mutual support between the Network and their ‘godly’ U.S. President, who will never admit to having made a mistake.

I don’t think that the ‘merry warrior’ President would sit down with the likes of PB Frank Griswold and his Council of Advice, given the latters’ opposition to the Iraq war and the outsourcing of torture of enemy detainies by the CIA, as advocated by two fellow-Episcopalians, VP Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Peter
Peter
16 years ago

Folks, Ummmm, I think we’re missing the point: My original linkage of Duncan, Iker, and their ilk was linking those leaders in rebellion against ECUSA. Iker has his own agenda, but it’s still rebellion. Duncan should be deposed, no question about that. And, in a broader sense, it’s time for ECUSA to restore some discipline to the clergy order. People like Duncan, Iker, and any other clergy aiding the Network or AAC should face the consequences of advocating for the destruction of ECUSA. Duncan is a lost cause–he should be deposed immediately after GC 2006. Any clergy who attempt to… Read more »

Alan Marsh
Alan Marsh
16 years ago

“Somewhere along the way they forgot their ordination vows or reinterpreted them to suit their individual whim or ego.”

Vows to uphold holy scripture and authentic Christian doctrine?

Or vows to obey blindly whatever 815’s lawyers were paid to say what the Canons now mean in the Orwellian world of ECUSA?

Thank you Peter for an excellent description of the canonically-correct brave new world of the UCUSA HoB.

Alan Harrison
Alan Harrison
16 years ago

Peter wrote: “Ummmm, I think we’re missing the point: My original linkage of Duncan, Iker, and their ilk was linking those leaders in rebellion against ECUSA. Iker has his own agenda, but it’s still rebellion.” No, Peter. With respect, YOU chose to list Iker among the “neo-Puritans”. Iker is in fact certainly on the Catholic wing of the Anglican Communion, but is by no means extreme. Fort Worth Cathedral ain’t S. Silas, Kentish Town, at present, let alone S. Saviour, Hoxton, when Fr Kilburn was vicar and all services were in Latin! Duncan certainly seems to be more of a… Read more »

Peter
Peter
16 years ago

Alan Harrison wrote:

“The litigious action you envisage could only make a martyr of Duncan and maybe also of Iker.”

Then so be it. Time to put an end to this rebellion against ECUSA and classic Anglicanism once and for all. Nobody is going to die in a ditch for Bob Duncan or Jack Iker.

Alan Marsh
Alan Marsh
16 years ago

How strange! To many of us “ECUSA” and “classic Anglicanism” look like complete antitheses!

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