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Lambeth: Saturday evening news

Updated Saturday 11 pm

The fourth draft of the Reflections document is available in full as a PDF here.

The Church Times blog has a commentary on it by Bill Bowder at The Bishops’ reflections – comprehensive, but rather hurried.

The Episcopal Café has extracted the two controversial sections of the text and they can be read at Live: Semi-final draft of Lambeth Reflection paper with some commentary by Jim Naughton.

And earlier, Jim wrote Live: bits and pieces as time ebbs at Lambeth.

See also Live: feudal morality.

The BBC’s Robert Pigott has updated his Lambeth Diary again, see A TWO-TIER COMMUNION: 2 AUGUST.

Update
Marites Sison at Anglican Journal has No concrete action anticipated on sexuality before Lambeth concludes

And also, Bishops of South Asia urge ‘continuing listening and healing’.

Solange de Santis at Episcopal News Service has Lambeth bishops air differing views on covenant.

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john
john
13 years ago

While the Reflections document is depressing in parts, there seems to be no real threat here. I think we should look at the larger picture and the larger message,

Cynthia Gilliatt
Cynthia Gilliatt
13 years ago

OK – I have read documents up to here. One of the main complaints about the consequences of +Gene’s consecration is tha it led to Islamic extremists using his election and consecration as a reaosn to attack African Christians. The only statements about this have come from African Anglican bishops. To my knowledge they have not cited sources from the Islamic community for this. As a scholar, and as someone who once wanted to be a journalist, I want to see evidence from independent sources. Can anyone cite a documented statement by an Islamic leader citing +Gene’s consecration in New… Read more »

drdanfee
drdanfee
13 years ago

If this covenant sticks, then surely we are least headed to Rowan’s fav idea of a two-tiered communion. Now whether that works out somewhat positively, by allowing us all to cool off and retrieve a historic Anglican sense of live and let live, along with allowing gospel churches to genuinely offer safe spaces to their queer folks and to all the folks related authentically to their queer folks – yes friends, sisters, brothers, and nowadays mothers and fathers – well such positives remain to be lived among us. It may also go negatively. If IRD and other USE rightwing funders… Read more »

Cynthia Gilliatt
Cynthia Gilliatt
13 years ago

Establishing a two tiered commmunion would make it harder for TEC to recover its stolen property, especially, I think [but I’m no lawyer] in the Diocese of Virginia matter.

Do you think the ABC would even think of such a thing if CoE property were at issue? Say, +Tom Wright deciding that Canterbury Cathedral would make a nice arch-episcopal seat for himself and his friends?

Not to be crass or anything.

It’s like the discussion between the hen and the pig about contributing to the farmer’s breakfast …

Robert Ian Williams
Robert Ian Williams
13 years ago

How can the ABC get over the fact that the Covenant will have to be approved by Parliament ..and if it excludes gays…. this could be a debacle compared to the 1927 Prayer Book measure. when Parlaianment threw out an Anglo-Catholic revision of the BCP.

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