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Archbishop of Uganda holds a press conference

The Archbishop of Uganda, Stanley Ntagali held a press conference recently. Here are some reports from it:

From the GAFCON website: Ugandan primate calls for GAFCON support

The primate of the Church of Uganda, the Most Rev. Stanley Ntagali has likened GAFCON/FCA (Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans) to the East African Revival and called for believers to back the Nairobi conference to be held in October.

In a major statement in Kampala, Archbishop Ntagali referred to the fact that exactly ten years ago an active homosexual, who was a divorced father of two children, was elected a Bishop in the Episcopal Church in America. “This unbiblical decision on the part of a church threw the entire global Anglican Communion into chaos” he said.

The chaos, the Archbishop said, shows no sign of improving.

“We have a new Archbishop of Canterbury who is born again and has a testimony. I have personally met him and I like him very much. But, the problems in the Communion are still there, and they don’t change just because there is a new global leader. In fact, ten years later, the crisis has deepened.”

From the Daily Monitor:

Homosexuality is tearing fabric of Anglican union, says Ntagali

Gay clergy don’t belong in Anglican church, archbishop says

…The archbishop said the Anglican Church is built on the doctrines of Biblical teaching which only recognize hetero-sexual relationships.

The Ugandan Anglican community takes exception of the decision by the England House of Bishops to allow gay bishops as part of the Anglican clergy, he said, and thus will have a Global Anglican Future Conference in Nairobi, Kenya this October to resolve the issues.

The Global Anglican Future Conference (Gafcon) will be the second of its kind that brings together Archbishops around the world who oppose gay bishops. In 2008, the anti-gay Anglican Church leaders gathered in Jerusalem, Israel to reflect on the future of the church.

Archbishop Ntagali, with these remarks, is picking off from where his predecessor left off: Henry Luke Orombi was one of the main organizers of Gafcon 2008, and also made several pastoral trips to several countries to preach against gay clergy and gay marriage.

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Cheryl
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Cheryl

It is not gays that are tearing apart the Anglican Communion. It is anti-gays who purport it is being torn apart. The reputation of some parts of Anglicanism is not based on its support or opposition to gays or women (whether that be marriage, in roles as priests or teachers). In parts of the world their reputation is in tatters based on condoning and institutionalising sociopathic behaviour, particularly the aiding and abetting pedophiles. Sociopaths don’t care about others’ feelings, from molesting and murdering children, to insulting and dehumanising women, to dismissing the validity of life on this planet or for… Read more »

FD Blanchard
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FD Blanchard

Feh!
With photos and videos coming out of Holy Russia of skinheads abducting, torturing, and murdering gay teenagers (and then boasting about it), the Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Castro-Street camp of the Church are in no position to preach to anyone about anything.

Cynthia
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Cynthia

Great, more ignorance and hate instead of the Good News of Jesus Christ. What do those guys learn in seminary, anyway? Don’t judge? Did they notice that Jesus stood up for the outcasts? Did they notice that Jesus himself got in trouble for not upholding the Law, hanging out with the unclean, etc.?

Revd Laurence Roberts
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Revd Laurence Roberts

Good to read Cheryl’s post and very good indeed, to see Cheryl commenting here, again.

Very.

Leonardo Ricardo
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Archbishop Justin Welby was just here in Guatemala. I listened as hard as I could to his sermon last Sunday (a sermon btw that departed greatly from the neutral sounding words published on his website). The ABC stressed reconciliation at ¨Church¨ (meaning ¨Communion¨ also). Otherwise WE will destroy the ¨Church¨ (Communion?). I suggest that Archbishop Stanley of Uganda listen closely to the words of OUR new Archbishop of Canterbury delivered at Santiago Cathedral, Guatemala City in English and perfectly translated Spanish (even when he went off prepared sermon): ¨When injustice is normal we must resist with Spirit of Christ¨ TOGETHER… Read more »

Concerned Anglican
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Concerned Anglican

Whilst Archbishop Ntagali probably believes what he says he is really playing to the GAFCON gallery and most especially to his ACNA mentors.

Cynthia
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Cynthia

Thank you, Leonardo, for the first hand report!

Father Ron Smith
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“The archbishop said the Anglican Church is built on the doctrines of Biblical teaching which only recognize hetero-sexual relationships.” – Report –

The Anglican Church then does not recognise the same-sex relationship of David and Jonathan, Jesus and John? These relationship are same-sex and loving to a remarkable degree. All in the Bible, too!

Trouble is, the GAFCON leaders are so caught up in the mechanics of sexuality they have failed to recognise the validity of love between two people who happen to share the same gender.

Richard Ashby
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Richard Ashby

In the light of the seemingly well founded suspicion that the anti gay rhetoric and actions in Africa are funded and fuelled by conservative evangelicals exporting the USA’s culture wars , this report makes interesting and heartening reading:-
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/08/judge-allows-landmark-case-against-anti-gay-religious-leader-to-proceed/

cheryl clough
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cheryl clough

Thank you Laurence. My love for justice and fairness is not diminished by the number of postings (or lack thereof). Have kept an eye on this website. Did not need to directly intervene for some time. Australian Christianity is currently undergoing a Royal Commission into Child Sexual Abuse. Lots of stuff is coming out. The sociopaths were clever, they limited it to abuse within church jurisdiction which meant a whole lot of victims (including myself) could not testify.

cheryl clough
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cheryl clough

Father Ron Just to remind you, and all Jews and Christians. David and Jonathon could not have had their hugging scene if David’s wife had not warned David of the impending threats to his life, or her hiding his disappearance by lumps in the bed that she were pretended were him. Saul turned her into nothing more than a consort and it is a tragedy of both Christianity and Judaism that they failed to recognise that David survived because of her sacrifice. He repudiated her dignity when he returned to the city dancing naked in the street, failing to recognise… Read more »

Cynthia
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Cynthia

Thank you, Richard Ashby, for that link. With God’s help, maybe the courts can stem the tide of a handful of rich and powerful people exporting hate.

Here in the US, these guys were like the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. But somehow, finally, the conscience of the people is emerging. At long last.

The Revd Tom Green
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The Revd Tom Green

I would like to remind the archbishop, The doctrines of the AC are decided by an equal balance of the Scriptures, Tradition and Reason. His views do not take a reasonable account of the recent science of the human person, sexuality and how humans grow and develop.

Randal Oulton
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Randal Oulton

>> “We have a new Archbishop of Canterbury who is born again and has a testimony.

Well praise the Lord, and pass the okra to the field workers. Otherwise, though, that ain’t the language of Anglicans. It’s the language of an American group of religionists working in Africa. And the Africans have clearly learned to speak as their American puppet masters have taught them.

Laurence
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Laurence

>> “We have a new Archbishop of Canterbury who is born again and has a testimony.’

Yes, well of course, he has been baptized – like all the archbishops before him !

C.f the BCP Service of Holy Baptism.

Daniel Berry, NYC
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Daniel Berry, NYC

I’d like to know what a “confessing Anglican” is. Describing ourselves as a “confessing” church was precisely what we declined following our ongoing conversations with Luther and his followers in the 16th Century. That’s why The Anglican perspective chose the more comprehensive 39 Articles, the Elizabethan Settlement and the catholicism of the Restoration rather than something like the Augsburg Confession. If the so-called Anglicans of Uganda and other places want a confessing church or a fundamentalist evangelical church, plenty of them are available – only you won’t get to dress up in copes and miters in most of them.