Thinking Anglicans

Opinion – 22 September 2018

Stephen Parsons Surviving Church Morale of the Clergy of the Church of England

Richard Peers Quodcumque – Serious Christianity Sex, flags and the Bishop of Ely

Andrew Lightbown Theore0 Talking of God to the church and in the public square

Jayne Ozanne ViaMedia.News Is Good Disagreement Possible?

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Is Good Disagreement Possible? Probably not, because one side absolutely insists on telling the other that we are damned, that something is so wrong with us that we will rot in Hell, taking our friends and allies with us. Cue : Gotterdammerung. Any version of “God hates you” or you are disordered, etc., is detrimental to the health and wellbeing of LGBTQI people. In the church, LGBTQI people need to be PROTECTED from those sorts. In short, no, good disagreement isn’t possible. The people who want that just want LGBTQI to shut up about the harm homophobia causes us. It’s… Read more »

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Temple authorities encouraged the crucifixion of Jesus because neither side engaged in good disagreement. Not a good precedent.

Cynthia Katsarelis
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I’m confused. I thought that the Temple authorities demanded the crucifixion because the teachings of Jesus were threatening to their money, power, and teachings. Of course, if you’re a Calvinist, it was preordained… Are you saying that if Jesus and the Sanhedrin had arrived at “good disagreement” the crucifixion wouldn’t have happened?

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Isn’t that the point? Jesus didn’t suggest that teaching should be changed and wait patiently for it to be discussed. He pointed out the unfairness of the prevailing teaching and suggested that the establishment was responsible for that unfairness.

If we follow Jesus, I don’t see how we can support good disagreement.

Father Ron Smith
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Hurrah for Andrew Lightbown, in his defence of Archbishop Justin’s relentless push for openness and accountability in the Church. That he is different from the person of conservatism who first came to office is increasingly obvious. He is actually listening to ‘What the Spirit is saying to the Church’ in this day and age. Bless him!