Thinking Anglicans

Opinion – 3 February 2021

Simon Butler ViaMedia.News Who Are The Prophets in Charismatic Churches?

Colin Coward Unadulterated Love Forty LGBTIQ+ people and allies write a second letter to thirty five bishops

David Brown Surviving Church The Problem is not CDM, but a significant Relational Deficit

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David Exham
David Exham
7 months ago

Simon talks about LLF. Sadly the book is still not available.

Ms Jayne M Ozanne
Ms Jayne M Ozanne
Reply to  David Exham
7 months ago

You can download it on the CofE website here
Click to access LLF%20Web%20Version%20Full%20Final.pdf

David Exham
David Exham
Reply to  Ms Jayne M Ozanne
7 months ago

Thank you for this, but I had already done what you suggest. But a PDF of this length cannot be navigated, and so i don’t think I can use it effectively.

RPNewark
RPNewark
7 months ago

It seems that the viamedia.news website has a problem. I get an error message about domain name upgrade mapping.

Simon Sarmiento
Reply to  RPNewark
7 months ago

This now appears to be fixed.

Marise Hargreaves
Marise Hargreaves
7 months ago

I will presume to answer for the 35 Bishops who have not responded to the letter sent to them re LGBTIQ+ inclusion. The answer is – No. The LLF process is dead in the water, unsafe and anyone who believes in radical inclusion needs to act accordingly, network and build support now. I hope I’m proved wrong but don’t think I will be.

Kate
Kate
Reply to  Marise Hargreaves
7 months ago

A number of TA contributors have signed the letter. Thank you. But unless something is done to make LLF safe, I agree with Marise: LLF is unsafe, there is nothing from the archbishops to address that, and LLF is therefore dead in the water.

Simon Dawson
Simon Dawson
Reply to  Kate
7 months ago

I have a less negative view about LLF I think it can do some good. I don’t think it important that members of the minority group of LGBTQ Christians speak within LLF unless, of course, they want to. It would be too easy to put excessive pressure onto people who are anxious about their emotional safety, and risk making them feel that they are letting the side down if they stay quiet. Instead, the voice that does need to be heard within LLF is the voice of the Silent Centre Ground. There is a vast mass of church members from… Read more »

Last edited 7 months ago by Simon Dawson
FrDavid H
FrDavid H
Reply to  Simon Dawson
7 months ago

Thank goodness the media exposes the cruel hypocrisy of sanctimonious ‘christians’ who show what a waste of time LLF will prove to be.
http://camdennewjournal.com/article/woman-accuses-kentish-town-church-and-vicar-of-homophobia-after-coming-out

Last edited 7 months ago by FrDavid H
Kate
Kate
Reply to  FrDavid H
7 months ago

That happened because the Bishop of London turns a blind eye to HTB.

FrDavid H
FrDavid H
Reply to  Kate
7 months ago

You are correct, Kate. Evangelical money always trumps Christian principles.

Simon Dawson
Simon Dawson
Reply to  FrDavid H
7 months ago

What is interesting here is the lack of transparency. The church was not open and public about its views on gay relationships, and so the woman concerned was able to join the church and make significant friendships and relationships with the church community, so when she eventually found out about the negativity towards lesbian relationships it was quite traumatic. WATCH have made a similar point about those churches which do not accept the ministry of women priests and bishops. Quite often knowledge of that policy is kept to he incumbent and PCC. It is not unknown for a woman to… Read more »

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